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Posted 6/9/2003 10:47 PM
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Rubber meets the road in 720 hours?

One prospective endeavor for the (Alaska) railroad may be to support the Army's new Stryker Brigade, (chief exuctive Pat) Gamble said. The brigade is scheduled to have initial operational capabilities at forts Wainwright and Richardson by May 2005. The brigade, designed for quick-reaction capability, would require movement on short notice. The railroad hopes to be instrumental in that, according to Gamble.

The railroad's role would be to transport the Stryker vehicles and other heavy equipment and supplies to the Port of Anchorage, where it would be loaded onto ships for deployment around the world.
http://www.alaskajournal.com/stories/060903/loc_20030609010.shtml



 


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Posted 6/9/2003 11:34 PM


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Originally posted by Scrib

Rubber meets the road in 720 hours?

One prospective endeavor for the (Alaska) railroad may be to support the Army's new Stryker Brigade, (chief exuctive Pat) Gamble said. The brigade is scheduled to have initial operational capabilities at forts Wainwright and Richardson by May 2005. The brigade, designed for quick-reaction capability, would require movement on short notice. The railroad hopes to be instrumental in that, according to Gamble.

The railroad's role would be to transport the Stryker vehicles and other heavy equipment and supplies to the Port of Anchorage, where it would be loaded onto ships for deployment around the world.
http://www.alaskajournal.com/stories/060903/loc_20030609010.shtml





Let's see....hmmmmm.....a train ride to a port for a boat ride. Gee that sounds like rapid deployment...NOT!!!! WTF over?!?!?!

I thought that that was exactly the way that heavy armor and mech units usually deployed?
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Posted 6/11/2003 8:13 AM


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Brian, you may want to check out this thread in the armor forum:

http://www.paratrooper.net/aotw/commo/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9346
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Posted 6/11/2003 3:04 PM
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Posted 6/12/2003 2:54 PM


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Seems that I missed out on the earlier dog pile, but will join in now. Officers at one time were very limited on active duty. Many officers on active duty were actually reserve officers serving indefinite periods on active duty either willingly or sometimes unwillingly. During the Vietnam period with pilots this was even more the case. For those unfamiliar with the draft as it once was in America, I will try to explain some of the finer points. Origanally, the draft was for men from 21 to 46. This was later changed to 19 to 32. Several different exemptions were given. Married men were for a time exempt. This was later rescinded and replaced with a waiver, not automatic, for men with dependents. This was the one that John Wayne used. He was 32, married with 3 children. Originally, divinity students were always exempt. Other students were exempt for that current semester unless they were in their final year, then they were exempt until graduation. After the Korean war, this exemption was changed to an exemption as long as they were a full time student. So your exemption was for four years ,if you changed your major or went to grad school your exemption or deferral continued. Now at the time of the Veitnam war younger men were drafted first, if you were a student you decreased your chances of being drafted. The longer you stayed in school, the less chance you had of being drafted as the top age had decreased to 26. This was the type that both Cheney and Pat Buchanen had. The people who tell you that they were draft dodgers are misinformed or deliberately misleading you. The current president was a NG pilot. He may have recieved preferential treatment to join the NG, but this was often the case with the sons of true war heroes. His chance of being activated and going to war was increased by being an Ng pilot, not decreased. I had a 1SG who thought that he had been cheated because he did not serve in Nam, even though he was in the Army at that time. Because he was black, he felt that he was held back for political reasons of too many blacks having seen service in Nam. He was the only 1SG in our Bn not to be a Nam vet. But later he was the only one selected for CSM, this was probably because he was the only college grad and be far the most articulate. My father served during the Korean war but spent his time at Fort Campbell running the jump school. His best friend who joined with him, saw action in Korea with the 187th and then went to the 82nd. The difference was that my father could type and his best friend had quit school to be a paratrooper. Many of my dad's Army buddies speak with awe of my father, because he was RA and they were draftees. And everything I had ever read said that draftees had not served as paratroopers! The people who talk about chicken hawks are usually too lazy to look up the info themselves. For more info on how Ike became a republican please read Madmen and Genuises. Prior to running for office he was not only not affiliated with any party but had never voted.



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Posted 6/13/2003 8:59 PM


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Originally posted by Delta_6

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They should also change the name to PBCTs [P=Peacekeeping] since that is what their primary role will be IMO.



Roger that Rey!! After Shinseki's stint as commander of US peacekeeping forces in Bosnia, I guess he started to lust after the Canadian and other European Army's wheeled peacekeeping vehicles.

Well, he wanted peacekeeping brigades and now he has them. I guess it is no small coincidence that the first SBCT has been declared 'combat ready' just in time to take over peacekeeping duties in Iraq.



John, maybe "Stryker Brigade Peacekeeping Teams [SBPTs]" could also work [].



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Posted 6/23/2003 10:18 AM


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That sure is some good news Brian. Thanks.[thup]
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