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| All you JM's smarter than me...it has been said that you cannot jump while you're on leave. I can believe that, but am unable to come up with chapter and verse stating that. I have checked the dot 220 and the DoD finance reg. Nada. Can one of geniuses point me to where that is written?
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Dfiremann (6/19/2008)
All you JM's smarter than me...it has been said that you cannot jump while you're on leave.
I can believe that, but am unable to come up with chapter and verse stating that. I have checked the dot 220 and the DoD finance reg. Nada.
Can one of geniuses point me to where that is written?
I don't believe that it is prohibited to jump while on leave. However, according to military pay regs any jump performed during leave is not counted as a jump for pay.
However, if you are not currently on status you can not jump with another unit unless it is under permissive status. Which has to be granted by your home unit. No commander will assume responsibility for you jumping with his/her unit unless your home unit has approved of this status.
Moreover, I believe that if you get injured jumping while on leave it is considered as a non-line of duty injury.
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Arcticabn (6/19/2008)
Dfiremann (6/19/2008)
All you JM's smarter than me...it has been said that you cannot jump while you're on leave.
I can believe that, but am unable to come up with chapter and verse stating that. I have checked the dot 220 and the DoD finance reg. Nada.
Can one of geniuses point me to where that is written?I don't believe that it is prohibited to jump while on leave. However, according to military pay regs any jump performed during leave is not counted as a jump for pay. However, if you are not currently on status you can not jump with another unit unless it is under permissive status. Which has to be granted by your home unit. No commander will assume responsibility for you jumping with his/her unit unless your home unit has approved of this status. Moreover, I believe that if you get injured jumping while on leave it is considered as a non-line of duty injury. From the pay side, that's the long and the short of it.
"He that hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart" - King Henry V "It doesn't matter what you think, you don't get paid to do that."
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Arcticabn (6/19/2008)
Moreover, I believe that if you get injured jumping while on leave it is considered as a non-line of duty injury.I don't think this is true anymore (if it ever was.) We ran into this in 3rd SFG when I was there and ultimately got a letter from the USASOC JAG to clarify it. Here's what was happening: As I'm sure you can imagine, a lot of SF guys are into sport parachute jumping, particularly those who are MFF qualified. So we'd have a senior NCO who was scheduled for ANCOC or the SF O&I course (both of which are critical for their career progression and which are scheduled far in advance due to shortages of slots) and they'd be getting ready to go - then they'd get injured in a non-duty parachute jump and we'd lose the slot. The S1 and the BC were saying that they'd treat non-duty jump injuries as non-LOD injuries in the future. One of the NCOs questioned this and it went up to the USASOC JAG. The bottom line was that as long as what you were doing was legal, it would be considered LOD. No different, for example, from an NCO scheduled for a school who got into an accident in his POV or motorcycle and was injured and unable to attend the course. As long as it's legal, it's LOD. Now I'm not an expert in military law and I haven't checked the regs in question but that sounds about right to me. A non-LOD determination is very serious - it means the soldier is on the hook for his own medical expenses, at the very least.
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| Great discussion, gang, and thank you. I am still unable to find a reg that states you specifically are prohibited.
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| I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but this is in the opening regarding the 1-507th jump policy. I am assuming that the referenced regulation and MILPER message would cover what you are looking for. Department of the Army (DA) approved Permissive Parachute Program, as described in AR 614-100/200, MILPER Message # R 201751Z MAR 00 and Fort Benning Policy Memo 98-09.
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