Combat Soldiers will wear combat patch of THEIR choice
Valor Studios, home of the world's finest military artwork and collectibles!
Support the community!
Paratrooper.net Commo Room
Home       Members    Calendar    Who's On
Welcome Guest ( Login | Register )
        



Combat Soldiers will wear combat patch of THEIR choice Expand / Collapse
Author
Message
Posted 6/1/2008 3:33 PM


Seasoned Vet

Seasoned Vet

Group: Community Supporter
Last Login: Yesterday @ 4:31 PM
Posts: 5,189, Visits: 3,664
General: GIs can wear combat patch of choice

By Nancy Montgomery, Stars and Stripes

Mideast edition, Sunday, June 01, 2008

HEIDELBERG, Germany — Word came down from on high last week reaffirming that soldiers at Camp Speicher, Iraq, and elsewhere may wear whatever combat patches they’ve earned.

"By regulation, Soldiers who have been on multiple deployments with different units have the option of wearing their unit combat patch of their choice based on war-time service," Maj. Gen. Mark Hertling, the commander of the 1st Armored Division and Task Force Iron in northern Iraq, wrote in an e-mailed memo Monday. "I encourage leaders at all levels to inform soldiers on the provisions of AR 670-1 ... and ensure they know they can adorn their uniform with the authorized combat patch of their preference," the memo said.

Hertling’s message was some small comfort to Staff Sgt. Jeremiah Minor. Minor, attached to the 1st Combat Aviation Brigade, and ordered to wear a 1st Infantry Division patch, had waged a lonely battle to be able to wear his patch from the 173rd Airborne Combat Team and an Afghanistan deployment.

Minor in April wrote a letter to Stars and Stripes noting the order defied Army regulations. After it was published, he received a counseling letter for "not using his chain of command," which warned of legal action against him if he did it again.

Minor, a "super soldier," according to his previous first sergeant, felt bad.

"Imagine if you will that you have to live by a set of rules you know to be wrong and you also know the people that enforce these rules know that they are wrong. Yet there is NOTHING you can do about it. You try and scream and shout as loud as you can, but for all your effort you are drowned out by the masses of soldiers next to you that are intimidated and that have been beaten into submission," he wrote in an e-mail.

After his letter was published, Minor’s battalion commander did send an e-mail to sergeants saying that they could wear the patch they wanted but that "leaders" — anyone getting an evaluation — were still "strongly encouraged" to wear the 1st ID patch.

Lower enlisted soldiers heard nothing at all on the matter, Minor said.

Enter Maj. Gen. Hertling. Hertling said he decided to send the e-mail, in part, he said, because of a conversation he’d had with Minor’s brigade commander, Col. Jessie Farrington.

"We were talking about several very important issues that were affecting his aviation troopers … and he mentioned the Stars and Stripes article, and how it was really unfortunate that a young soldier, and perhaps some of his leaders, had misunderstood his desire to generate unit spirit and morale by suggesting they might all wear the 1ID patch on their right shoulder," Hertling wrote in an e-mail to Stripes.

"Jessie Farrington is one of my best brigade commanders, and I know what he was doing… he was attempting to give them something to latch onto which was a piece of history," Hertling’s e-mail said. "Some soldiers (and perhaps some leaders) took that the wrong way, and thought it was a "policy" to wear that patch in their Brigade. Let me emphatically state: It isn’t."

Farrington’s attempt at forging unit cohesion was understandable, given how deployed units are formed these days, Hertling said. His own task force, he noted, contains elements of the 1st ID, 2nd ID, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, the 2rd Stryker Cavalry Regiment, 10th Mountain Division, 101st Air Assault Division, the 75th Fires Brigade out of Fort Sill, Okla., the 111th Engineers of the West Virginia National Guard, and a variety of other units from the States and Germany.

Just 800 soldiers wear the 1st AD patch, Hertling said. "That’s a little strange, and very different from the last time 1AD deployed as a division with all its brigades in 2003-4 when I was the assistant division commander."

Despite the memo, Minor’s troubles persist. Minor said he did go through his chain of command, and, even if he didn’t, experts say he could not in actuality be prosecuted for "not using his chain of command." They say that soldiers may express themselves in a newspaper like other U.S. citizens without fear of reprisal, yet they also say a soldier can be counseled for almost anything.

Minor remains unpopular with his battalion leadership, he said. He was informed that his upcoming review would likely be negative, and he’s heard that some in the battalion are looking to pin him with some other offense, he said. His counseling statement has not been retracted.

The Army reservist with a Purple Heart who volunteered for a third combat tour feels sadly disillusioned. "So much for freedom of speech if you are in the military," he said.


------------------------------------------------------------

 Out of every 100 men, ten shouldn't even be there, Eighty are just targets, Nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." - Hericletus, circa 500 BC

-----------------------------------------------------------

Post #259630
Posted 6/1/2008 4:52 PM


Hard Charger

Hard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard Charger

Group: Registered User
Last Login: Today @ 9:45 AM
Posts: 2,361, Visits: 2,460
Very unfortunate and its an issue that shouldnt have even come up. Fortunately he's a reservist and not active duty from the standpoint of taking a career hit.
Post #259631
Posted 6/1/2008 5:08 PM


BS6's Dude

BS6's Dude

Group: Community Supporter
Last Login: 2 days ago @ 7:03 PM
Posts: 3,042, Visits: 4,281
They still look at your NCOERs for promotion in the Army Reserve, so this could definitely end up negatively affecting him down the road.

Not to mention the stress he's working under at the moment due to the CS from his CofC while at the same time serving a (voluntary) combat deployment for the third time.


 
Post #259632
Posted 6/1/2008 7:51 PM


Seasoned Vet

Seasoned Vet

Group: Past PNET Supporter
Last Login: 9/17/2008 11:00 AM
Posts: 3,378, Visits: 1,300
Sure would be a good issue for discussion at the C&GSC wouldn't it? The giving an illegal order and threats and intimidation of a Soldier who speaks out about it. Yep this one is squarely in the O's court, I hope they do the right thing by this Soldier.

Stand in the door! 

                                     

                                                                                          

Post #259639
Posted 6/2/2008 7:05 AM


Regular Joe

Regular JoeRegular JoeRegular JoeRegular JoeRegular JoeRegular JoeRegular JoeRegular Joe

Group: Registered User
Last Login: 9/30/2008 6:37 AM
Posts: 91, Visits: 234
Chances are good that the leadership will not do the right thing feeling they have been publicly insulted by this soldier and are looking for a little payback.

Like I said in the other post about this, the military is always saying they want well educated personnel but when they get them in and the soldiers show the leadership just how smart and on top of things they are, the leadership tends to be a bunch of whiny babies and punish these guys.

Its stuff like this that makes good soldiers leave the service and makes civilians thinking of joining not want to join.






Its only paranoia when they prove you wrong.

Post #259657
Posted 6/3/2008 6:33 AM


Seasoned Vet

Seasoned Vet

Group: Past PNET Supporter
Last Login: 9/17/2008 11:00 AM
Posts: 3,378, Visits: 1,300
Well I do not believe this is indicitive of the whole Army's Leadership having met and worked with some outstanding Officers in my career. However, I believe that many good Officers will tolerate or make excuses for the ones that pull this horse do-do for the sake of unity or some such. The same thing happens with senior NCOs I know but it isn't right when it is obviously at odds with the Army Values. The COC in this issue is as wrong as two boys fornicating but instead of acknowledging that the TF Commander did the humma-humma, made excuses for the Bde. Commander and left the Soldier at the mercy of this COC. I think clarifying the policy was the right thing to do but also coming out and saying that the adverse action taken aganst the NCO would be dismissed and either warning the COC against retaliation or transfering the NCO where he wouldn't be intimidated needs to have happened.

Stand in the door! 

                                     

                                                                                          

Post #259735
Posted 6/4/2008 9:42 AM


Hard Charger

Hard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard ChargerHard Charger

Group: Registered User
Last Login: Today @ 1:35 PM
Posts: 1,574, Visits: 1,984
JR (6/1/2008)
They still look at your NCOERs for promotion in the Army Reserve, so this could definitely end up negatively affecting him down the road.

If the reserves are anything like the NG, promotion to the senior ranks is more based on what slots are open for his MOS.  If he's qualified and in a low-density MOS (I believe he's an MI guy) then he'll get the promotion unless he's a total dirtbag (which he does not appear to be.)  If he was in a high-density MOS (like combat arms) then his NCOERs might undergo a bit more scrutiny but I never saw anybody in the Guard pay much attention to NCOERs.  In fact, I've probably got at least a couple of years of non-rated time in the guard, which would be an absolute career-killer in the RA, but in the guard it didn't even keep me from getting the promotion to E-7 which, strictly speaking, I wasn't even entitled to (not MOS Q'd.) 


 
Martin  
 
 
 
"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission" - Zapp Branigan, Futurama
Post #259810
« Prev Topic | Next Topic »


All times are GMT -7:00, Time now is 5:12pm

Powered By