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82nd_Raider
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| I agree, 509, and a bust in rank goes to E-2. But, E-1 is a BIG hit, as I recall, it is (or was) used as part of a serious disciplinary strategy that could well include the stockade (or, in his case, the brig). My time frame goes back a few years though.
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A few years,Ted? I thought you were like me --a few decades or more 
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Ted (3/6/2008)
The point that I raised, really hasn't been picked up. In my time in service, I have seen NCO's busted a grade for some serios infractions. But, when someone goes all the way down to E-1 after 2 years of service, that is usually a big red flag. I would ask what the highest rank he was in service along with other service related questions. Just my IMHO. Actually an OTH generally comes with a reduction to the lowest grade. most likely in was a chapter 10 (in leiu of Courts Martial)
"He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart"
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diroco (3/7/2008)
A few years,Ted? I thought you were like me --a few decades or more Diroco, There are 3 signs of old age: 1st- You lose your memory............................ 2nd and 3rd.........I forgot. And, doesn't a long time ago seem like just a few years? It goes WAY TOO quickly. As I recall reading on the 50's Jumpers website: We can't do what we used to, but we still think the same. Airborne!!!!
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An OTH rates separation as an E-1 and an RE-4. Once in a great while you'll find an E-2 but seldom. The Navy has some real pissy rules and it's very difficult for the sailor to get support from the chain. Most are supervisors and very few are leaders.
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| I was discharged with an OTH around the same time from the Navy, like the others have said . It was most likely a dumb mistake which we all made in our early ages . I would look past it and give the guy a chance. My employer questioned me on it and I was honest and to this day my employer couldn't be happier.Thanks for giving him a chance, I'm sure he will have respect for you and give you 100%.
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Down in Panama we had guys burning piss tests all the time, some repeat customers and all the Bn did after so many strikes was bust them down to E-1 and Chapter them out. I don't know if they were given OTH's; cause one E-5 from my Co who burned one ended up years later working as a Security Guard at the Art Musuem my mom was working at.
I'm Surprised Panama's still sea level, after all the Push Ups I did down there.
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ebphila (3/24/2008)
I was discharged with an OTH around the same time from the Navy, like the others have said . It was most likely a dumb mistake which we all made in our early ages . I would look past it and give the guy a chance. My employer questioned me on it and I was honest and to this day my employer couldn't be happier.Thanks for giving him a chance, I'm sure he will have respect for you and give you 100%.Okay, hero, SOP for this site is to fill out the bio in your profile and open a topic to introduce yourself to the others here before you start posting.
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American GI. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
"History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight someone who has the will to fight will take over." COLONEL BULL SIMONS
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