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Were the questions answered? No. What I find interesting is fear that people of my own faith have in dialog about their own faith! This is not unlike the fear my ex had of her own decision to take on her new relationship yet admit it to her co-workers, her family, her church and her children. Is it because they do not know what they believe or is it because they are ashamed of their faith, or something else? . . . Their mother still goes to church and has asked that my children not be exposed to this content. I will respect her request, not because I believe that this content is necessarily harmful to my eight year old, but because I have not personally reviewed it and because my son has not been instructed well enough in his own faith, though he is a believer in his faith, to ask the right the right questions yet. Perhaps the real issue here is around the need to raise our children in the Christian faith and whose responsilility it is. That means that as adults, we need to know what we believe and why we believe what we believe and pass that on to our children. that means we must live out what we say we believe.
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B2B... wouldnt going to the movie WITH our children and then talking about it be better than trying to turn it into a taboo item. My thought is that if the movie has been sanitized and the books are what really brings in the questions, wouldnt it be a better lesson to say that we can be strong in our faith and see screen entertainment as the fiction that it is. Why should a movie so threaten our faith any more than Passion of the Christ strengthen it?
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If I did still have youngsters, I would certainly see it with them - excellent point! I can remember times when we did just such a thing with ours. This particular movie I would probably avoid even with them, if I still had them. I also try and find objective reviews that provide more information than just the ads trying to get us to spend our money on them. Therefore, I don't go to many movies. Amazing Grace might have been the last one I saw on the big screen.
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If I did still have youngsters, I would certainly see it with them - excellent point! I can remember times when we did just such a thing with ours. This particular movie I would probably avoid even with them, if I still had them. I also try and find objective reviews that provide more information than just the ads trying to get us to spend our money on them. Therefore, I don't go to many movies. Amazing Grace might have been the last one I saw on the big screen.For sure, my kids havent even mentioned the movie much but when that time comes over the holidays where they're off school, it may and we have told them that IF we choose AS A FAMILY to see this movie, we'll see it together or not at all.
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82MP-RGR (12/11/2007)
Were the questions answered? No. What I find interesting is fear that people of my own faith have in dialog about their own faith! This is not unlike the fear my ex had of her own decision to take on her new relationship yet admit it to her co-workers, her family, her church and her children. Is it because they do not know what they believe or is it because they are ashamed of their faith, or something else? . . . Their mother still goes to church and has asked that my children not be exposed to this content. I will respect her request, not because I believe that this content is necessarily harmful to my eight year old, but because I have not personally reviewed it and because my son has not been instructed well enough in his own faith, though he is a believer in his faith, to ask the right the right questions yet. Perhaps the real issue here is around the need to raise our children in the Christian faith and whose responsibility it is. That means that as adults, we need to know what we believe and why we believe what we believe and pass that on to our children. that means we must live out what we say we believe. Taking ones children to church is never enough instruction in faith. Living our faith and using everyday occurrences to teach. How do we react to the beggar? Do we help others? What does God say about cursing? Do we obey the laws? Do we honor others? Do we honor our spouse? Do our kids see us living our faith? My kids, they see me live my faith, but they are torn. Mom goes to church but she doesn't love daddy and somehow the reason isn't clear. Daddy doesn't speak of it. Life isn't simple and Daddy's are not perfect either. We all have shortcomings, even those of us in the faith. I will echo your words, being a living example is perhaps something much more valuable, perhaps reflecting and occasionally pointing out how "this" applies to something your child is learning in his Bible study at home can be much more valuable.
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| Awesome comments! Since I spent 25+ years in SF I missed a LOT of my 3 childrens' growing up. I thank God that He blessed me with a very strong woman with whom I have been with for 32 years and 13 days now. Talk about a challenge! I needed to defer to her 'child rearing' techniques (different than what I preferred in some cases) and things seemed to have turned out well. The values we give our children are precious and long lasting and we need to start early in their lives. When we had our first son, we started a tradition of having a birthday cake for Jesus, the single candle lit and singing before anything else on Christmas morning.
Well, I better get some real work done here. I just got to work.
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Ok I've just returned from seeing the movie. I'll start off with just reviewing my thoughts about the movie.
It was well acted and the special effects were very good. Lots of big name actors in the movie. The script was well written and the young actress that played the lead did a very good job.
This was strictly fantasy. As has been written it is an alternate world and the only linkage to us it that they are also human.
The movie is rated PG-13 and deserves the rating only because of the violence in several of the scenes. There were several fight scenes in the movie, but unlike the blood and gore of other movies, here the killed individual just disappeared in a cloud of gold dust. Which I found to be interesting since it was the goal of the government to disprove that dust existed (the concept of God I guess) and yet when someone dies the movie has them disappearing into dust like the soul is going back to God.
Now from the other aspect. If there had not been a discussion going on here, I would never have even thought of equating this movie with my belief in God or that there was anything remotely associated with trying to harbor ill will against my faith. I could find no direct correlation in this movie and an attack on the Christian religion.
If anything the back story that came out here was that there was a government that was trying to be totalitarian and was trying to eliminate free will, free speech, and was working toward a class system.
The movie generally followed the storying line of the first book (now that I read most of it) but changed the order in several instances. It also ended before the story line in the book ended.
Unlike other movies (Harry Potter, Eragon, and such) this movie did not overly do the concept of magic. There is no conjuring of spells or anything. The witches appear and disappear. The seem to be one of 5 or 6 races on the planet.
I would not recommend the movie to kids under 10 and even then only those kids that the parents feel are mature for their age. Like I said the violence is fighting and deals with death but not in the way we are used to seeing on screen. The most violent scenes are actually between the animals (other half of the humans as was described in the article above).
So in my opinion I guess the only danger I see to my belief system would be if my son wanted to read the 2nd and 3rd books in the series. So I asked him. He said, not really, he had other series that he was more interested in; some fantasy and some mystery stories. He also reminded me that he need to read a book or two on Pearl Harbor before we go there in March.
Overall, it was an enjoyable evening with my oldest son, a time to talk, and share.
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If you want peace prepare for war!
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