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Posted 6/1/2007 7:25 AM


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If his intent was to draw attention to the protest he suceeded and honestly I dont see the military doing too much to this guy except what you have here... scare any other troop thinking about it to stop long enough to weight the options.

If the military doesnt have the time and energy to go after awol/deserters with the full force of UCMJ then I dont think they'll waste much time and effort on pushing this one very hard.

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Posted 6/1/2007 9:50 AM


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Thousands of Vets with honorable discharges have demonstrated against Wars for a long time. I have seen a lot of them wearing various parts of Uniforms, medals, etc. I don't condone it, but if they served this Country honorably, especially in Combat, I would think they would be the "only ones" who really have the right to demonstrate against War. What they need to do is take out some of these assmonk pukes who never served a day for their Country. Just my .02

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Posted 6/4/2007 11:54 AM


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The Fox News article said the veterans were wearing their uniforms with the insignia removed.  A uniform without insignia isn't really a uniform, just camo clothing.  IMO that means they're no different from Bubba wearing his cammies out in public. 

AFAIK reservists of any kind are not subject to the UCMJ unless they're on active duty orders.  (Maybe one of the military lawyers here can chime in to clarify.)  Activated reservists are subject to the UCMJ once they become activated.   

I think the Marines stepped on their dicks with this one.  This guy wants to see himself as a martyr, a victim of a cruel and harassing bureaucracy, and now they have fulfilled his wish.  He'll probably get a full scholarship to the Evergreen State University department of Peace, Love and Granola studies now, as well as becoming the poster child for the anti-war movement (because, let's face it, Cindy Sheehan is nuttier than a hundred fruitcakes and dumber than bag of hammers.)

It would have been better for the Corps to just let him spout off, wear his cammies, and just ignore him rather than turn him into a folk hero for the surrender coalition. 

And besides, I'll tell you this:  If President Hillary declares war on Australia, I plan on wearing my BDUs to the anti-war protests! 


 
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Posted 6/4/2007 12:12 PM


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I saw an article in the paper this weekend that said the American Legion is urging the Marines to abandon any charges.  He's been there and done that, and while I may disagree with what he is saying he has earned the right to express his opinion, with his uniform is he chooses, even if he is in the IRR.  How many vets go to support the troops rally wearing parts of their uniform?

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Posted 6/4/2007 5:10 PM


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He was not wearing anything that said USMC, he is not on orders or currently serving, he did nothing that nay have not done before.
I disagree with his views, I disagree with his stunt (protest), but unless navy Regs are different than the Army regs regarding wear of the Uniform by Veterans/Retired personnel they have nothing to charge him with. (In my my gut opinion)
Someone up the food chain got pissed off at this guy, but they likely have nothing to touch him on.



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Posted 6/5/2007 4:34 AM


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Well, since he was demoted during his time, I think he may have ticked off a few people. 

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Posted 6/5/2007 8:44 AM


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They recommend a general discharge under honorable conditions so he can keep his benefits

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,278100,00.html

 



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Posted 6/5/2007 2:49 PM


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Navy/Marine regs are quite specific that veterans may not wear their Uniform to Protests. He could be charged...
Thing about this punk is that his involvment and motivation protesting the War appears to have more to do with his RE-4 and being busted from Sgt to Cpl. Oh, just for a little thing like returning from Iraq with an unauthorised (and likely undeclared) weapon. He had even volunteered to go back for a third tour in Iraq, not exactly someone you would expect to be amongst the barking moonbats of the left. Think this is just his way of trying to get back at the Marine Corp for them tossing his ass.



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