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Posted 5/23/2007 12:45 PM


Cherry

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This is the unit I believe I'm headed to, and I can't find a whole lot of background information on it. If anybody has any experience with the unit, I'd appreciate whatever info you can give (history, organization, types of missions, etc). Remember OPSEC, though.

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Posted 5/23/2007 1:55 PM


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You're not going to find anyone with experience with the unit unless it is someone there now.  These cav squadrons in the 82nd have all been activated in the last year under the transformation the Army is currently undergoing.

My understanding that as far as the lineage goes the 73rd Cav was going to receive the lineage of the 73rd Armor regiment.  This was done because until about 1996 the 3-73rd Armor was assigned to the 82nd.  They used M551 Sheridans at that time, and one troop jumped into Panama during Operation Just Cause.

Have you tried the Army's Center for Military History unit lineage and honors page?  The 73rd should be under the cav section.

Edit: I stand corrected.  There is no lineage information posted on the CMH's lineage and honors site.

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Posted 5/23/2007 2:13 PM


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They are in Iraq....ergo you will be in Iraq. Ask in person upon arriving!!!

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Posted 5/23/2007 2:18 PM


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 As Barry said, these 73rd Cav units (and I think there is also a 1/73 and a 3/73) are fairly new. I found this much G-2 in about 30 seconds using google search. If you are going to be a Scout, you have to be resourceful and TCB on your own. Don't mean to bust your balls, just telling it like it is. Hooah!

4th BCT, 82nd Airborne Division

As of January 2006, the 508th has been reactivated as the Fourth Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division. In February 2007, the 508th deployed to Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. The BCT is composed of:




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Posted 5/23/2007 2:33 PM


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Roger, Recon133. That's about as much as I had found before, but it doesn't tell me a whole lot about the unit specifically. I know they're in Afghanistan on Task Force Fury in the 4th BCT, and that they're a RSTA unit (just came from one), but are they wheeled or dismounted? Are they true 19Ds or re-classed 11Bs? How do they view themselves in regards to the infantry, and how are they viewed as a member of the 82nd (red headed step child, etc)? Do they embrace the Cav traditions (spur ride, stetson, etc)... Whats the emphasis on recon, or do they play more of an infantry-type role? What are their expectations of a new 2LT arriving? How often do they jump? etc, etc, etc.

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Posted 5/23/2007 4:41 PM


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19A,
I'm an 11A in 1/75 RSTA at Campbell with 502 RCT. The RSTAs at Bragg should have the same basic setup. There are two 19D troops that are MTOEd Gun Trucks with TOWS, Mk19s, and M2s. Supposed to be 3 PLTs of 6 Trucks each, 3 joes per truck. We only have 3 PLTs of 4 Trucks because of equipment and manning. The troops also have a 120mm Mortar section. For us infantry types its basically the same as a line battalion D Co with the additional mortars. Every soldier in A/B Troop is 19 series except for the 11Cs. There is also a dismount reconnaissance company which is all 11B. It has two 28 man scout platoons and a sniper section and a mortar section in the company HQ. The HHT has the aid station and staff once the Fisters and medics get tasked out to the companies.

That being said, from what I've seen and heard here so far, no one has a really good idea on how to use the RSTA. The conflict for which they were designed is not the one we are fighting. Instead of having a third line unit to which the brigade can task to another section of its fight, it has 2 Delta Companies and 2 scout platoons that have fire power and mobility or manpower but not both. The last rotation our company C Co was split. The two platoons each got attached to a troop and the company HQ formed a Mitt team. I've heard 187 RCT has semipermanently attached a line infantry platoon to the C Co in 1-33 Cav to give them some more muscle. No one is quite sure how to skin the cat. Personally I think it would have been better to keep the 3rd line unit and create a brigade reconnaissance company that has the same organization as the RSTA C Co.

As far as the Infantry and Cav guys playing well together I don't know. Here its a little rocky because all the 11B types were hand picked holdovers from the 3/502d Scouts and others. There it may be different because the unit was completely stood up fresh as opposed to transformed from another unit. We just had a tanker CSM show up and he's going over like a lead balloon, even with the 19 series guys. By tanker I mean fat and stupid and has never walked an FTX in his career. He's trying to get the whole stetson thing going and it just isn't, at least not yet.

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Posted 5/23/2007 5:50 PM


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Scout, this organization is so new that the Army is still trying to work everything out.  There was no time to develop and get this working in a peacetime environment.  That is why things are so vague.  Right now I suspect that they are playing more of an infantry ground rule while deployed, as does the artillery and other units in the brigades.  The 82nd has the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 4th battalions of the 73rd Cav.  I would think they would jump about as much as any other Airborne unit in garrison, expect at least one a month.  Good luck.

Al, not all of the Division is deployed to Iraq, so beat your face.

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Posted 5/24/2007 12:42 AM


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They are in Iraq....ergo you will be in Iraq. Ask in person upon arriving!!!

Cough, they're here with me in Afghanistan.  Mostly spread out tot he littler FOBs

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