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Pnet's Thread Insurgent and Chief Muldoon
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Congrats Manchu on getting the Torch, and remember Al works for the Chair Force now so you've got to cut him some Slack; even though he had a Great Shot with that Leg Division Remark he made there.
I'm Surprised Panama's still sea level, after all the Push Ups I did down there.
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Regular Joe
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| Not just for additional jumps sake, but not only being a 6 jump chump in a leg division I have no idea what it looks like from the JM's perspective in the A/C. I know what the instructors said, but seeing it from that side would have been better.
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Ertman (1/27/2007)
BTW, Master Sgt, how many loaves of bread are in a dough bundle??? That was the beginning of a very long smoke session for me many years ago. I woulda gone tjhrough it with you just to see the look on the face of the Sergeant Airborne you pulled that on!
Stand in the door!
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Congratulations! My comparison may not be helpful, as I graduated from the Benning course back in 1975 (class 3-76), so I'm sure it is changed, but we only did a few jumps back then as I recall, and called in a few airdrops. The course had only recently been changed from 5 weeks to 3 weeks, and the course of instruction was in transition. Blowing obstacles to clear LZ/DZ's was primarily a demonstration for example versus student practice. Memory isn't as reliable as it used to be, but my recollection is we concentrated mostly on rotary wing operations. Makes sense coming at the end of Viet Nam. We did a lot of slingloads, rappelling, LZ prep for different helicopters, learned which flight formations worked best for which size LZ's, primitive airfield air traffic control, establishing safe approach routes away from friendly artillery fire, etc. We had 5 foreign officers,only 3 of which graduated. Some Navy ANGLICOs, a couple of Marine officers from the JFK carrier group, two SEALs, and no USAF personnel that I can recall. I do remember that we had two enlisted pathfiders-to-be from the 101st who weren't jump qualified, and we might have been one of the first classes they allowed non-jump qualified personnel. Those legs really caught hell, especially from a Ranger instructor who was going through the course. I believe there was one leg from one of the armored units as well. As I recall the pass rate was about 60%. It was a difficult course, but primarily mentally challenging versus physically demanding. The 82nd pathfinders were assigned to the 82nd Avn Bn, and my only practical use airborne wise was in serving as DZSO, and was able to set up LZ's and make jump go/no decisions on non-tactical jumps when the Division was short of pathfinder personnel. I did also get used a lot as a detail officer for rappelling training as well. When I was in C/307th, I would frequently get to go along with 2nd Bde (325th then) battalions on extended training excercises as they liked to have an extra lieutenant around for additional duties. I didn't mind, sure beat motor pool inspections or practicing deployment package loading excercises (checking loading cards for different deployment scenarios then seeing if all of that was actually on hand, would fit in our vehicles/trailers) and actually be accepted by the loadmaster. Sorry for rambling, congrats on your initiative and smarts. Be the best qualified soldier you can be. I'm very proud of our those serving in our Armed Forces today.
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| Congratulations: I don't know if you are a man of the faith, but you might consider this the pathfinders creed: "I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them;
I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth.
These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them." Isaiah 42:16 and this the pathfinder motto: "Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path." Psalms 119:105 Ranger's Lead the Way
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Regular Joe
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Congrates!
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Little late Para???
LOAD CLEAR! LOAD CLEAR! "Your job is my hobby!!" 
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