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Posted 1/9/2007 7:27 PM


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Ert, I noticed that SDV [swimmer delivery vehicle] too.  I've heard that Army SFOD-As and SFOD-D have trained with them too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Delivery_Vehicle


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Posted 1/9/2007 8:18 PM


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RR,

Let's just say that my brother recovered a team of hooahs fromn a hostile shore and one of the guys (operators) recognized him from when a couple guys went with me to Mom's house in ATL on a couple of  weekends.

Apparently, it was pretty comicial. My surname is not that common and my buddy asked him, "hey do you have an older brother named Mark?" When they found out that they knew each other back in the day, it was old home week on board. Both of them were re-assuring their guys that other guys were good people.

When little brother got back to the States, he called me up and asked "do you remember XXXXXXX" I said "hell yeah". When he tells me that XXXXXXX said hello and that he would get in touch with me" I asked "where the #$&^ did you see him?". Brother tells me " I cannot tell you, but he was cold, wet, tired and happy to see me!"


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Posted 1/9/2007 8:28 PM


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Ert, cool story.

He was probably wearing one of these when your bro recovered him:

LAR-V SOF Rebreather

http://www.specwargear.com/dive&swim.html

 


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Posted 1/10/2007 4:27 AM


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I am unable to post the link but this is a new article on this incident:

Navy: Speed of tanker sucked sub up to surface
By JACK DORSEY, The Virginian-Pilot
© January 10, 2007
Last updated: 12:21 AM

NORFOLK - The submarine Newport News was submerged and leaving the Persian Gulf when a mammoth Japanese oil tanker passed overhead at a high speed, creating a sucking effect that made the sub rise and hit the ship, the Navy said Tuesday.

That is the preliminary finding of Monday's collision between the Norfolk-based submarine and the Mogamigawa, a 1,100-foot-long merchant ship displacing 300,000 tons.

Both were southbound, crossing the busy and narrow Strait of Hormuz while heading into the Arabian Sea.

"As the ship passed over the sub, it ended up sucking the submarine into it," said Lt. Cmdr. Chris Loundermon, a spokesman for Submarine Force in Norfolk.

"It is a principle called the venturi effect," he said.

The Mogamigawa, built in 2001, is a super tanker that displaces 300,000 tons of water - three times the amount of water of a modern aircraft carrier.

The Newport News, a Los Angeles-class submarine, displaces 6,900 tons of water.

"This was a very, very large ship moving at higher speed," Loundermon said.

No one was injured aboard either ship, the Navy said, and damage to both vessels is relatively minor.

The collision was the fifth involving a U.S. submarine in the past six years, according to news records.

Four of those incidents involved other surface ships. In one case, a submarine hit an undersea mountain.

The Newport News collided with the Mogamigawa while submerged in the Arabian Sea about 10:30 p.m. local time, the Navy said.

Afterward, it was going to Bahrain to check for further damage.

"She is headed to port right now," Cmdr. Kevin Aandahl, a spokesman for the U.S. Naval Forces Central Command in Bahrain, said late Tuesday from Bahrain.

Damage to the Norfolk-based Newport News appears to be confined to the bow, he said. The sail, or mast, and the sub's nuclear reactor were unharmed, he said.

Aand ahl said he could not discuss details such as the speed or depth of the submarine at the time of the impact.

Aandahl emphasized that the Newport News was not surfacing at the time, as was reported earlier by CNN.

The Strait of Hormuz separates the Arabian Gulf from the Gulf of Oman and the North Arabian Sea. It is about 40 miles wide - 34 miles wide at its narrowest point, according to globalsecurity.org.

The strait, which is the world's most important oil chokepoint, has channels for inbound and outbound tanker traffic that are 2 miles wide, as well as a buffer zone of 2 miles, according to the Web site.

The Newport News left Norfolk along with the aircraft carrier Eisenhower strike group in October for a six-month deployment to the Middle East.

The Mogamigawa was traveling from the Persian Gulf to Singapore with a crew of eight Japanese members and 16 Filipino members. The submarine has a crew of about 130.

The other four submarine collisions in the past six years are:

  • Sept. 5, 2005: The fast-attack submarine Philadelphia and the Turkish merchant ship Aysen met about 2 a.m., 30 miles off the coast of Bahrain, resulting in minor damage.

    The Aysen was attempting to overtake the submarine and approached the Philadelphia from the sub's port quarter.

    The ship damaged the sub's propeller, the sailplanes, a periscope and dented the Philadelphia's hull.

  • Jan. 9, 2005: The attack submarine San Francisco, traveling at a high speed near Guam, struck an undersea mountain, killing one crew man and injuring 24.
  • Nov. 2, 2002: The fast-attack submarine Oklahoma City struck a Norwegian merchant ship in the western Mediterranean Sea, damaging the sub's sail and periscope but causing no injuries.

    Its commanding officer was relieved of command.

  • Feb. 9, 2001: The attack submarine Greenville ran into the Japanese fishing and training vessel Ehime Maru off the coast of Hawaii while performing an emergency surfacing maneuver during a demonstration cruise for civilian visitors. Nine crew members on the Japanese ship died.

    The National Transportation Safety Board concluded that collision was caused by inadequate communication among senior members of the crew.

    The commanding officer was relieved of command and retired.



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    Posted 1/10/2007 8:57 AM


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    I want to know what sort of cowboy games were they playing that made the captain decide that he had to be right underneath an oil tanker in an area known to be shallow. It is not like the 300,000 ton displacement tanker snuck up on them. The tanker makes more noise underway than a Salvation Army Band, there is no way that the sonar did not see them.


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    Posted 1/10/2007 9:34 AM


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    Maybe they were testing some kinda new super duper top secret tanker hook and drag system for towing nuclear submarines around in the gulf so they can really run silent!!

    What was that flick with Curt somebody or other where they sucked up to a comercial jet liner in an F-11 and had this special docking system where they climbed up into the jet! LOL

    I'm telling ya, things are heating up over there....USS Stennis will be overlapping a turn over in less than three weeks, and someboby wants to send the regional punk bitches a messsage!  Lay off or else! Just a thought!  I'm going to lunch now!

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    Posted 1/10/2007 9:47 AM


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    Ever see "Periscope Down" with Kelsey Grammer?
    In the movie, they snuck up under a huge tanker to disguise their acoustic signature in order to sneak into a harbor.
    They might have been sneakin' too. Probably to sneak closer to something.

    And that's all I have to say about that.






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