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Posted 9/12/2006 12:09 PM


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Navy Chaplain Faces Court-Martial for Wearing Uniform at Protest

Tuesday , September 12, 2006

NORFOLK, Virginia — A Navy chaplain on Tuesday pleaded not guilty before a court-martial to a charge of disobeying orders by wearing his uniform at a White House protest started Tuesday.

Lt. Gordon J. Klingenschmitt contends he is being punished for praying in Jesus' name at the March 30 event, a political protest of Navy policy requiring nondenominational prayers outside of religious services.

Jury selection was to begin later Tuesday.

Last December, the Evangelical Episcopal priest went on an 18-day hunger strike in front of the White House over the right to invoke Jesus' name outside such services.

A superior officer had ordered Klingenschmitt not to wear his uniform during media appearances without first receiving permission but said he could be in uniform if conducting a "bona fide worship service." Klingenschmitt contends the news conference at the protest qualified as such; the Navy disagrees.

If convicted, Klingenschmitt faces a maximum punishment of forfeiture of two-thirds pay per month for one year and a reprimand.

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Posted 9/12/2006 1:20 PM
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Posted 9/12/2006 4:10 PM


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Not about prayer?

Navy officials have insisted over the past several months it was Klingenschmitt's attendance at the event with Roy Moore – known for his ouster from the Alabama Supreme Court after refusing to remove a Ten Commandments monument – that violated policy, not any specific prayer.

In April, Terri Davis, public affairs officer at Norfolk, Va., where Klingenschmitt is stationed, pointed out the charge involves his allegedly disobeying a "regulation or an order." "This stems from his appearance, in uniform, at a press conference," the spokeswoman said. "This has absolutely nothing to do with him praying. This has to do with his conduct as an officer and being there in uniform."

Davis pointed out Navy regulations prohibit an officer from appearing in uniform and expressing political or personal views. Klingenschmitt counters that he did not express a political view at the press conference but simply prayed. The chaplain points to a Feb. 21 Navy policy that states: "Religious elements for a command function, absent extraordinary circumstances, should be non-sectarian in nature."

A command function is an official Navy event outside the traditional chapel or worship-service setting. By punishing Klingenschmitt, the chaplain contends, the Navy is stretching its "command function" requirement to every public event at which a chaplain wears his or her uniform.

Klingenschmitt believes the March 30 event qualified as one appropriate for wearing his uniform since the Navy Uniform Regulation "permits a member of the naval service to wear his or her uniform, without obtaining authorization in advance, incident to attending or participating in a bona fide religious service or observance."

In April, Capt. Lloyd Pyle presented the charge to Klingenschmitt. The chaplain had a choice of accepting a letter of reprimand or insisting on his rights to a court-martial. He has chosen the latter. Pyle's letter said Klingenschmitt violated the Navy policy by "wrongfully wearing his uniform while attending and participating in a news conference in support of personal views on political and religious issues." The event was meant to protest against the Navy policy requiring non-sectarian prayers in all but chapel settings.

As WorldNetDaily reported, in January Klingenschmitt received a letter from his commanding officer recommending he not wear his uniform at an earlier White House event, but not prohibiting it. "If, despite my recommendation, you choose to participate in this [White House] event in uniform, you should limit your participation, while in uniform, to the 'bona fide religious service or observance,'" stated the letter.

In January, then, the chaplain broke his 18-day hunger strike by praying at the White House in uniform, for which he received no discipline. "They gave me prior, written permission to wear my uniform, so long as I only said prayers," Klingenschmitt explained. "And that's all I did."

Klingenschmitt said Navy personnel contacted the Washington Post Friday as a sort of pre-emptive PR move. The Post published a story about the charges against him Saturday. The chaplain described the two White House events, saying, "On 7 January, I wore my uniform in front of the White House and I never got punished. But on 30 March, I wore my uniform in front of the White House and I got punished. At both events, all I did was say prayers." "All I did was say prayers at a press conference," he said. "I did not make any political speeches.

The Navy is characterizing the prayers themselves as political speech." After the February Navy policy came out, Klingenschmitt filed a whistleblower complaint with Winter, which is part of the reason, he claims, the service is punishing him. http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50821

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Posted 9/12/2006 8:12 PM


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On face value it would appear he violated some regs. The letter from his commander only suggesting he not wear his uniform, but if he did to limit his activities to prayer then it puts the navy case against him on pretty shaky ground.
Though I thought (at least in the Army) that we were prohibitied from appearing or taking part in any protest, especially in Uniform.



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Posted 9/13/2006 5:52 AM


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Orders are orders whether one likes them or agrees with them. I hate to think what would have happened back in the day if I had disobeyed an order. There was no PC bullshit back then, no mommy or daddy going to their Senator, no special treatment period (exception - Elvis ). You were in the Army and your ass was theirs to do with what they wished.


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Fry him!  You should never show up to something like that in Uniform!

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Posted 9/13/2006 7:26 AM


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Even the very conservative Navy Chaps that I hang with have decided that this guy is way too far out on the limb.  He has been repeatedly given orders about press confrences in uniform, which are lawful, and has repeatedly disobeyed them, sometimes on the pretense of holding a religious service (Very few religious services are held on the sidwalk outside the whitehouse in front of TV cameras).  He is making a sham of not only the chaplaincy for the Navy but the rest of us as well.  He needs to be court martialed and quickly discharged.


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Posted 9/13/2006 2:15 PM


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They need chaplains at Portsmith and Leavenworth Prison too don't they? He could then hold services in his prisoner uniform every day for say 3 to 5 years!

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