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Hard Charger
 
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| I think it all depends on your intent, if you want to stir it up, bring it up at the family gathering, I am sure that is not the goal, if its to get him to stop lying, talk to him one on one and tell him to stop or you will let it be known what the truth is. Help him fill out the forms to get his 214 put the ball in his court, he knows he is lying and will not take it to the level of embarrasment. Let it die quietly, but let him know you know the truth and tell him to set it straight on his terms, but you do not have to let the lie continue. You should give him every opportunity to take care of this himself since he is family. Give him six months or some time frame and let him know the choice is his, but its either he sets it straight or you do.
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dannytechwannabe (9/27/2006)
I think this one has to die a quiet death. If he is living a lie, the issue won't die. You know the truth so let him know it man to man. He is claiming a status that he has not earned. You know what to do. No need for a public scene. Just the two of you over a beer.
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Regular Joe
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I mean no disrespect, sir, but it's a hard one to judge. On one hand, I would say that he wouldn't care one bit about his story, that he wouldn't care about honor or stealing it. He lies about a great many things. Up to this point, we always thought that they were minor things, and to him, this probably counts as just another white lie. But he goes to Rolling Thunder in D.C. every year. Can't figure it out.
My guess is, from other known facts, that he came from a broken home and was a MAJOR disappointment to dad, a Vietnam Vet. He signs up for the Army a while after high school when all other options have exhausted themselves. He goes in as a cook because he wants to learn a skill. Being a cook is not something that his dad, a real hard-ass, would have seen as suitable service. But Persian Gulf 1 is fast approaching and he calls home to talk to his family, and out comes some desperate plea for attention. He starts making up some stuff so that his dad will at least tolerate him. And who's it gonna hurt? Eventually the story wheels into the ridiculous, but his dad finally has something to be proud of. He comes home to a hero's welcome and it's too hard/too late to set things straight with his dad. So he chooses to live the lie.
Now he and his dad are pretty close (they go to D.C. together). His own son is very proud of his dad for having been a soldier. His knowledge of Italy leads me to believe that he was actually stationed there, just not in the capacity that he claims. I even think he went to the sandbox, just not as the super-secret sniper squirrel that he claims.
By no means do I condone his actions. But to destroy a family, and I truly believe that this would destroy the whole extended family, for the sake of being able to say, "I'm right, you're a liar," well, I'm not ready to do that. Believe me, it would make me very happy to do that and shove it in his face and watch him sqirm, but I think it would do more harm than good in the end. Sorry to disappoint.
I lack people-skills.
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If you dont want to bust his ass out to the rest of the family you MUST let him know that you know he is a POS poser and if he does not end it himself you will do it for him!
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Hard Charger
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| No disappointment at all its family and they will always be there, you could just let him know that you know the truth and maybe that will be enough, but I don't think anyone wants you to destroy your family.
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Regular Joe
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| Thought I'd try something over the holidays. At his wife's graduation party for her masters, I decided I'd test the waters, so to speak. My wife knows of my distrust of the individual and understands why but doesn't want me to make it known. BUT she did play along on this one. My wife's cousin served in the 82nd a few years back and was in attendence. I convinced him that I was doing a test, told him to put his beer down and said, "JUMPERS, HIT IT." He smiled and did what we were all taught to do. It's been at least 7 years since his last jump, but we all know what to do when we hear that. I then convinced him to do it to our Italian secret squirrel. .........Nothing but blank stares for 30 seconds...... He then looked at my wife and me smiling and said, "what is that some kind of airborne shit?" Now, if he ever was a jumper, his last jump would have been back in 92-93. But I will bet that most jumpers here would still know what to do. (This is where you guys write back telling how long ago you jumped and whether or not you know what to do) There were some other stupid blunders over this vacation that indicate that he never held a rifle other than at the range, but they are numerous and only further tell what has already been said here. The good news is that his wife got a pretty good job with her new degree and will someday be able to leave him.
I lack people-skills.
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Bright as a chemlight after 20 hours
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| My last jump was late 1990. I'd tuck my chin and cover the rip-cord in an instant if I heard that, especially from someone who knows how to say it correctly.
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Cherry
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| We all know how you feel. I say screw'em. Deep down inside he knows he's a puke, that why he's making up stories.
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