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| But you should also read into the story. He hasn't deployed in 7 years and he probably won't. he is working in the community hospital. Most of those are coded as US Army Garrison or Meddac. Who is he going to help. Maybe down the road but not where he is now. He is wearing a white smock to work everyday and you know that those guys don't even do Seargent's time training. He made it through the school and that is good, but like it was brought up. How many National Guard Infantry guys don't get slots and deserve it. THe whole weekend warrior bit is out the window. Every Combat arms guy should have a shot before an X-Ray tech regardles off AD, NG, or RC.
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Congrats to him.................now if I was in charge, he find his ass working in the TMC at Hunter assigned to 1st Ranger Batt!!!
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khyros (3/10/2006)
Kudos to the man for rising to the challange and achieving it... however... Sorry CAL... but I have the some reservations as to whether or not it's worthwhile to send folks who are only going to enter combat only by accident and misfortune to the school when there is a long waiting list for it composed of men who's are definately going to be closing in and killing the enemy. This is not PLDC were talking about here... make no bones about it, Ranger school is specifically for developing light infantry leaders.Bro, I hear you - and I can't really make a good argument for an Xray tech to need the school, but you can't let some CS/CSS MOSs in and some out. Well, maybe you can.... Anyhow, I would agree that an Infantry soldier should be given priority for a RS slot over a CS/CSS soldier. I agree that Ranger school is for developing light infantry leaders. I submit to you that on today's battlefield, you are seeing CS/CSS folks performing many infantry functions. Therefore, I believe there to be some inherent value to have those troops be given the opportunity for RS.
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| Alright! Lets send every f__king x-ray tech in the army to RS and then send every infantry joe to army hospitals whether they can perform the function or not (well also send every x-ray tech to the frontlines of Astan and Iraq). I just don't see how an x-ray tech will use light infantry skills while performing that function. Kudos to the dude but then again RS today is not the RS I went to in '88. And no, an infantry joe who did not make it is not a wasted slot. He simply did not make it. Not everyone is supposed to make it. He gets re-assigned to a position where a "V" or "G" indentifier is not required or needed, or he remains in place because such indentifier ("skill") is not needed or required in that position. Thats what it is all about. IMO/IME every infantry unit can benefit from RS graduates, it is a freaking INFANTRY school to begin with! RS is basically "infantry" as it is supposed to be done. I love it when individuals who have never negotiated or experienced something have all kinds of opinions about it. Again "kudos" but I agree to disagree with some of you on this one.
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So, because we never attended Ranger School, we are now NOT authorized to have an opinion about this topic? I thought we defeated the Nazis in 1945.... Hell Rios, I never went to Disney Land either...does that mean I can't express my opinion on the wearing of giant mouse ears by middle aged men? From your tone I draw the implication that you will not accept this new Ranger into the fold....because of his MOS? Maybe this guy wants to go SF someday. Could he use the skills he received in Ranger School to help with that transition, or should he likewise be excluded from THAT school as well because he is an X-Ray tech? Oh, sorry...I shouldn't have asked you about SF...since you are not a long-tabber, you are not entitled to an opinion about it..... Just my opinion, but instead of bashing this guy, and bashing the DA for allowing him to go, and crying about how he might have stolen some 11-B's slot MAYBE even a NG/AR spot etc, we should say "thanks for a job well done' and fucking move out. The lack of NG/AR slots in your unit are the sole proprietary responsibility of your COC...not the fault of this newly Hoo-Ah X-Ray tech. Budgets, not desire, drive this war-wagon. I consider myself to have been an excellent Airborne Infantryman and I never went. Did I want to? Hell yeah. Back in the 80's, it was hell to pay to get there if you were not at Bragg, in the Regiment, or a friggin West Point Cadet. When I became an Interrogator, forget about it...no Ranger School slot for the MI weenies in Germany... (49 weeks at DLI was enough school for me...not to mention the 9 weeks of Interrogation training. ...) I am glad that this skill set is being allowed to other branches, but that is just my .223...if I am still allowed to have an opinion on this site...
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| Okay, no one is bashing this guy. Everybody here has congratulated the Soldier on his accomplishment. But I see a serious contradiction in giving him a slot to Ranger School, but not deploying him even though he has volunteered for it. The issue revolves around whether or not CSS should get slots to Ranger School. We discussed this at the time the announcement was made, and what is needed for CSS Soldiers and units is a shorter school that gives them the additional training to deal with the deployments they may or may not be sent on. Ranger School should be reserved for those in Ranger/LRS units and those in Combat Arms MOS's that are likely to need it not only in OIF/OEF, but also in a Panama or a Mogadishu deployment in the future.
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BTW, the problem the 507th Maintenance Company had was that it received no combat training prior to deployment. Many of the Soldiers in the company had not received anything close to combat training since Basic.
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American GI. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
"History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight someone who has the will to fight will take over." COLONEL BULL SIMONS
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Hell I'mn happy for the guy,I'mn sorry but I would much rather see the Army send someone that will for sure need the school than someone that has a snowballs chance in hell of needing it like a x-ray tech.BF I also served in the late 70's and 80's and tried to go to RS with no luck,but like you said ,it was a hard school to get .I guess things have changed a little
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| Then let's start by getting those in the Regiment through the school and move from there. I do agree that this guy could get into theater if he really-really tried.
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| OK BF, when the f__k did I bash this guy for completing RS? I think you need to get your head out of your fourth point of contact on that one. Believe me...I think quite a few hooahs on this site would agree with me that if there is someone that exercises his opinion around here is you. You and blackflag even have your own little thread here in PNET. You can have all the opinions you want about RS...could really give a shit...knock yourself out stud. The point is that I disagree with you and redleg155 on this matter and we are not discussing SFAS or the SFQC here...thank you very much. I have at least served in two SF Groups in the past (Reserves and Guard).
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