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| This is a "War on Terror" story so bear with me. In 1986 45 USAF/USN aircraft bombed Libya. Operation El Dorado Canyon was ordered by then Prez Ronald Reagan and it came three years after Op Urgent Fury in the Caribbean. Why did we bomb? Libya for 5 years had been messing with our Navy in the Med. In 1981 two Libyan Su-22 Fitters challenged a USN F-14 Tomcat routine patrol, the Tomcats (2) defended themselves and splashed both Fitters. Soon after Qaffafi drew the "Line of Death" between the Libyan cities of Misratah and Banghazi and dared any U.S. ship or plane to cross it [Gulf of Sidra]. The U.S. State Dept. had also labeled Libya a supporter of terrorism outside its borders and our CIA had indentified 'terror training camps' within its borders. Prior to the U.S. raid Libyan agents were determined to be responsible for the Berlin bombing of 'La Belle disco' frequented by U.S. soldiers stationed in Germany. 
The type of aircraft involved were F-111 Aardvarks [USAF - main effort], A-6 Intruders, A-7 Corsairs, and F-18 Hornets (45 birds total). For the raid it was the first time a U.S. Prez used the words "War on Terror" [WOT] to explain military action to the press. GWB would use a similar term "GWOT" 15 years later as he authorized the start of OEF air campaign in Afghanistan. 
What went wrong with El Dorado Canyon: Bombing results were mixed, one F-111 was lost at the Libyan coast (inbound) and there was collateral damage -- including, ironically, damage to the French embassy. Nor did it immediately put an end to terrorism from Libya: Mr. Qaddafi's agents blew Pan Am Flight 103 out of the air over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988 in retaliation for Op EDC [Boeing 747-100: 270 passengers from 21 countries were KIA plus 11 people on the ground]. What went right: What was memorable about EDC was the Air Force's ability to fly a 6,000-mile mission, its reliance on guided bombs, the timing that brought planes from two services over the target within seconds of each other and the fact that it was all done at night [USN warbirds were the supporting effort and had relatively short flights from their carriers]. During the EDC strike USAF/USN aircraft produced 227 hits, 5 misses, and 8 aborts. The raid became the model for American air operations in the last decade of the 20th century and the opening years of the 21st. The single F-111 lost contained pilot MAJ Fernando L. Ribas [Puerto Rico] and weapon's officer CPT Paul F. Lorence [California]. Apparently they did not survive a low-altitude ejection and their bodies were recovered by Libyan fishermen some days later. Ribas' body was released 3 years later [1989] by Qaddafi but Lorence's was kept. Almost 20 years later he is still listed as "KIA body not returned" [KIA/BNR]. Two decades later the Lorence family still wants Paul's body back so he can receive an honorable burial at Arlington. MAJ Ribas and CPT Lorence are listed as the first U.S. servicemen KIA in the "WOT/GWOT". MAJ Ribas link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_L._Ribas-Dominicci CPT Lorence link (including recent family statement): http://www.pownetwork.org/libya.htm info@pownetwork.org It is time for CPT Lorence to come home http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103
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| Yeah, the FB-111Fs were from my former unit - The 48th Tactical Fighter Wing, at RAF Lakenheath, UK. I think they flew with escort from the RF-111s out of Upper Heyford, too. 
A good friend of mine was one of the intel planners for the 48th TFW during this mission.
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| JR, The FB-111Fs were forced to fly around Spain and France adding like 3,000 miles to their round trip flight. The USN birds had shorter flights from their Med stationed carriers. You would think that after the successful efforts to get Libya to at least agree to compensate the Pan Am 103 families we would have also secured CPT Lorence's remains by now. Its been 20 years of waiting for his family. POW/MIA. 

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JR, The FB-111Fs were forced to fly around Spain and France adding like 3,000 miles to their round trip flight. The USN birds had shorter flights from their Med stationed carriers. Yeah, I remember that. I agree with your comments about it being "about time" to return the remains of our fallen warrior, too.
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The damage to the French embassy was done by SA-2 SAM's falling back to earth, not US ordance.
"I have the Americans with me, and they have their death ray. Surrender or die!" Gen. Abdul Rashid Dotsum. Afghan Warlord.
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I remember going to airshows in the 80's up to Westfield, Mass. to see the ANG put on a display of their A-10's there which always kicked ass and seeing one of those F-14's with the green star it denoting it's victory over the hapless Su-22.
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Not to get off topic Rey,but back in 81 my batt(1-505) we were out at Camp McCall on what was suppose to be three week FTX.after the f-14s shot down the Migs we were rushed back to Bragg, given a bunch of shots and then we just waited.To make a long story short we didnt go anywhere but it was fun while it lasted
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| bf509, abn_grunt, interesting anecdotes related to the 1981 Tomcat shot down of the Libyan Fitters. RAKK, on the French embassy deal. My main motivation for starting this thread was to discuss the fate of CPT Lorence's and MAJ Ribas' remains. Neither you or I were in Libya that fateful 1986 morning so how are you so sure of what impacted the French embassy then? My main source of info was the internet so I am not confirming or denying the Frog embassy info I posted. That particular bit of information is unimportant to me. abn_grunt, you mentioned the "MiG" shot down. I am 'nitpicking' here but technically the Fitters are not MiGs. There are mainly four (4) aircraft manufacturers in the former Soviet Union [CCCP]: Mikoyan-Gurevich [MiG], Sukhoi [Su], Tupolev, and Antonov. MiG and Su manufacture mainly fighter jets, Tupolev bombers and transport/cargo planes, and Antonov cargo/transport planes. The 1981 Libyan 'Fitters' were therefore "Sukhois". Tupolev and Antonov also manu | | | |