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See PC? Compared to these guys, you were an absolute saint!
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Fri 5 Dec 2003
4:34pm (UK)
Drunken Soldiers Fined for Causing Panic on Plane
By John-Paul Ford Rojas, PA News
Five soldiers who caused panic on a packed passenger aircraft with their drunken and rowdy behaviour were each fined sums ranging from £1,200 to £1,500 today.
They were in a group of 18 soldiers heading back to Newcastle Airport from Belfast in November last year.
Their antics included shouting, abusive language and touching the bottom of a young air hostess, Newcastle Crown Court heard.
The pilot of the British European flight had to radio for police to meet the men when it landed and some of the soldiers reacted violently as they were arrested.
Judge Beatrice Bolton said: “This is reminiscent of a school bus where the children don’t know better. The behaviour is far below what could be expected from adults, especially adults who are serving in Her Majesty’s Armed Forces.”
John Adams, Neil Ambler, Glen Vickers, Michael Brierly and Paul Wright all pleaded guilty at earlier hearings to being drunk on board the aircraft.
The five, from the first battalion of the Coldstream Guards, based at Aldershot, were going on home leave to north-east England after service in Northern Ireland.
Vickers, 35, of Keasdon Close, Berwick Hills, Middlesbrough, a staff sergeant and the senior officer among the group, was fined £1,500 and ordered to pay £150 costs.
Ambler, 26, of Emmerdale Close, Penshaw, County Durham and Brierly, also 26, of Strawberry Gardens, Wallsend, North Tyneside were each fined £1,200 and ordered to pay costs of £300.
Adams, 24, of Alnwick Square, Sunderland and Wright, also 24, of Orpington Avenue, Newcastle, were both fined £1,200 each and ordered to pay £150 costs.
Handing down the fines the judge said: “You are each a member of the same platoon and what you did was to let your commanding officer down, let your battalion down, let your regiment down, and let the Army down.
“Instead of protecting the civilian population you intimidated them. Instead of being courteous to the civilian population you were rude and vulgar.
“Instead of giving them a sense of security you can imagine those on the plane felt a sense of panic.”
She added: “I hope each and every one of you are more than sorry for the disgrace that you wrought upon your regiment and for the sense of disturbance and disquiet that you caused those of us who pay your wages.”
The men had been drinking heavily before boarding the 50-seater de Havilland dash-8 aircraft which was carrying 48 passengers.
Robin Patton, prosecuting, had told the court that almost as soon as the doors were closed on the aircraft it had become clear they were in a “boisterous” mood.
Two young female cabin crew who became the subject of their abuse first noticed their behaviour when shouting interrupted the safety demonstration as the plane was about to take off.
Mr Patton said one woman who was sitting alongside the soldiers had described how they used “foul language” throughout the flight, leaving her feeling intimidated.
He said that by the end of the flight she was “hysterical“.
The court also heard how the men rushed around the plane and swore and became abusive when confronted about their actions. Many of the women on board were in tears.
An Army officer told the judge that each of the men would be disciplined internally and barred from promotion for two years.
The judge said this was not a case of “air rage” as it had not involved violence towards other passengers or members of the cabin crew or damage to the aeroplane.
She told the men: “Whilst despicable that sort of behaviour can be distinguished from the sort of behaviour which is called air rage and always merits a custodial sentence.”
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Many of the women on board were in tears.
Don't you just love the way they portray women? Like they're a species that needs every protection availible, yet the judge trying them was a woman.
I "F"ing hate the media.
But, on another note, it sure sounds like we missed out on a decent party. Dang it!
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yeah, sf11b_p posted part of the same article on my arrest thread. Now, for a rough estimate of the fines in US dollahz, don'tcha double them? That means the staff sergeant (roughly equivalent to a company sergeant major if I remember correctly. Which I almost never do.) paid almost $3300, the troops each paid about $2700 apiece.
And of course the media play up the troops like they're raving lunatics, and the women are fearing for their lives. Idiots. 9 times out of 10, the surrounding civvies join in the party.
Make The Voices Stop!
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Sorry 'bout the financial difficulties. Sheridan, don't do it again!
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These Guy's sound like Para's to me!
They allway's throw the standard "They Were In TEARS! line it for good copy! pretty big fine if ya' ask me! They didn't even use the "HYJACK" word either! WTF! Probably a plane load of LIMEY Liberals on there way back from a protest somewhere !!!! But the troops should have known better ! To act NON' P.C. in public!
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Rudyard Kipling
Tommy
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o'beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,'' when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,'' when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy how's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country," when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!
Go with God, but make Him walk the point.
If you load a mudfoot down with a lot of gadgets he has to watch somebody a lot more simply equipped - say with a stone axe - will sneak up and bash his head in while he is trying to read a Vernier. - Robert Heinlein
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I don't often post poetry, but I've had this one in my head for awhile.
http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/verse/volumeXI/tommy.html
Go with God, but make Him walk the point.
If you load a mudfoot down with a lot of gadgets he has to watch somebody a lot more simply equipped - say with a stone axe - will sneak up and bash his head in while he is trying to read a Vernier. - Robert Heinlein
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