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Posted 7/8/2004 7:09 PM


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OK, as some of you know my brother has enlisted in the Army and is following in my footsteps.  He's got 31S (SATCOM), jump school, and Bragg in his contract.  So here are my questions:  With the reorganization of the Army and more specifically the 18th ABN Corps, I've heard that the mighty 35th Sig BDE is going to be deactivated and its assest distributed among the existing Divisions/Brigades.  Does anyone have any info on this and what units does that leave with 31S slots?  The ones I know of are 82nd Sig, 112th Sig (USASOC), a few slots at the SF group on Bragg and a few with SOSCOM.  Am I missing any?

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Posted 7/8/2004 7:12 PM


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Posted 7/9/2004 5:49 AM


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What about 1112th Sig? I know that it is a Garrison unit but they have some high speed stuff.



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Posted 7/9/2004 5:54 AM


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Cal, I haven't seen anything official about the 35th Signal Brigade being deactivated. In fact, the only plans for reorganization in the Army that I have heard so far are at the division/brigade level. Nothing about Corps level units. At this point I would pass it off as scuttlebutt and not worry about it.

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Posted 7/9/2004 12:40 PM


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Just FYI Cal, 112th Sig Bn is a USASOC asset that falls under SOSCOM, and my units sister Bn.

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Posted 7/9/2004 2:40 PM


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Perhaps you mean 1110th?  1112th doesn't have any 31S slots, but 1110th are the strategic folks from Ft. Meade.  That unit is not an option because of how to get there.  They don't fill their slots by way of 18th Replacement, but from their own folks from up at Meade.  The only way to get there from Bragg is by way of an inter post transfer.  Plus, they are a bunch of LEGS!



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Posted 7/9/2004 2:44 PM


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Maybe I misspoke.  Are there other units within SOSCOM besides 112th?  I've got a buddy that is not with 112th but is with SOSCOM so I drew the conclusion that there was another unit with 31S slots.



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Posted 7/9/2004 2:49 PM


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Barry, this is where I got that from:

http://www.paratrooper.net/commo/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=2&MessageID=111680

Bragg to grow by 2,000 troops

Fort Bragg will grow by about 2,000 soldiers as the 18th Airborne Corps is reorganized as part of Armywide changes, military officials say.

The 82nd Airborne Division - which will be known as a "unit of execution" or UEx - will add a fourth maneuver brigade in 2006, the officials say. The "All American" division will grow to about 16,000 to 17,000 paratroopers.

Apache, Black Hawk and Chinook helicopters now in the 18th Airborne Corps aviation brigades will move to the 82nd.

"It will have a lot more mobility once it's on the ground," Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, said in an interview last month. "It will have a hell of a lot more lethality."

The Army's overall transformation plan calls for growth from 33 combat brigades - "units of action" under the new terminology - to 45 or 48 in an effort to provide more forces to rotate overseas and decrease reliance on reserves for combat units.

The idea is to make the Army more effective at fighting without making it larger. That involves moving resources from larger organizations to smaller units that are closer to combat. Some units now organized as separate brigades will become "units of action."

"This is not a bad deal for the All Americans," said Col. Karl Horst, the 18th Airborne Corps chief of staff. "They are big winners in this."

But the 229th Aviation Regiment, known as the Flying Tigers, and the 18th Aviation Brigade will go out of business.

The 229th got a message from the Army in March telling it to deactivate its headquarters by May 15, Horst said. The regiment probably will roll up its flag for the final time this year when Col. Vance Sales steps down as regimental commander and departs for his next assignment, Horst said.

Plans call for the 229th's 1st Battalion to go to Iraq with the 3rd Infantry Division from Fort Stewart, Ga. The 1st Battalion recently completed training in the digital Longbow version of the Apache helicopter. The people and equipment with the 229th's 1st Battalion will move to Fort Stewart after returning from Iraq, Horst said.

"What we intend to do there rather than pick up the whole battalion in moving vans and take them to Fort Stewart is use natural attrition," Horst said. Soldiers newly assigned to the unit will report to Fort Stewart rather than Fort Bragg, he said.

The 229th's 3rd Battalion will join the 82nd, Horst said.

"We are trying to minimize the turbulence on families," Horst said. "We are doing a lot of stuff fast. We have not lost sight of the fact that soldiers and families and people are important to us."

Rotating deployments

The 18th Airborne Corps, which has its headquarters at Fort Bragg, is at the center of the Army's initial transformation efforts. At the same time, the 18th is sending divisions and brigades to Iraq and Afghanistan.

"Every combat formation in the 18th Airborne Corps has been gone once or twice," Horst said. "Those that have been gone once are going again."

The 18th Airborne Corps includes the 82nd Airborne Division and several support brigades at Fort Bragg and three divisions in other states. The others are the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) at Fort Campbell, Ky., the 3rd Infantry Division at Fort Stewart, Ga., and the 10th Mountain Division at Fort Drum, N.Y.

The 3rd Division, which has armored vehicles, already has added a fourth maneuver brigade. The division played the key role in the war in Iraq and will return to Iraq in the fall.

Some units are having to reorganize, train to work as reorganized units, and then train for overseas deployments. Planners have to juggle long-range training requirements versus deployment demands.

"This is like herding cats," Horst said. "Cats are changing colors while we are herding. Some of them aren't quite changed and aren't ready to go yet. It's a huge challenge."

The 101st, which specializes in helicopter warfare, will be tackling transformation this year, too. The "Screaming Eagle" division just returned from Iraq.

The 10th, which is the smallest and lightest of the corps' divisions, will undergo changes in 2005. The light infantry division has been in Afghanistan.

People who were working in the 229th headquarters now probably will go to Fort Drum to help build an aviation unit in the 10th, Horst said.

The 18th Aviation Brigade will probably turn over its helicopters to the divisions after returning from Iraq, Horst said. Col. Mason W. Thornal will probably be the brigade's last commander.

"The same thing is happening with 35th Signal (Brigade)," Horst said. Its assets and personnel will be parceled among combat divisions.

"Those assets are moving," Horst said. "They are not going away. They are just going to different place."

Military officials said that the changes are coming fast.

"That is unprecedented on how we have done business in the Army," Horst said. "We have long been big, slow, lethargic, bureaucratic, analyze, test and finally field kind of an organization. Now we are doing it on the fly."



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