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Our training is speed orientated. A tank at 50-60Ks is harder to track than one at 20. The Battle standard for a quick attack is 30 -40mins from WO to assault. This is the average from WW2 and from the British standard. Our tankers donee stay in one spot for more than 30 sec. A tank stantionary is a Sagger Spounge. I know our tactics are different, but a Tank is a Tank a CRV is CRV, a IFV is a IFV. We are trying to turn the Inf into fighting the LAVs. Right now, they follow up behind the tanks, dismount then assualt. We want them to follow the tanks in to the assualt. On the trenchs, then if you have to dismount. A tank 6 ton plow or the 8 ton rollers do make a mess of a
trench. The Lav can take on light BMPs, then the Tanks for the tanks.
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Paratanker, I too think that OUR infantry is over loaded and over humped. After just 16 to 20 miles of humping with a 60 pound ruck the average infantryman needs some time to rest his body and feet before he can be effective in combat. Currently our light infantry is too "light to fight, too heavy to run."
I like the idea of giving them some wheels to cut down on some of the humping. However, they still need to hump to be used to carrying loads for some distance.
As long as our LAVs are used as transports and not as IFVs we should be ok (one expensive combat taxi though).
Our Army right now could use at least one expeditionary regiment made up just of drivers, tankers and mechanics equipped with M113A3s and M8 AGSs. This unit could deploy as a regiment or as a BN or CO to support any light infantry, airborne infantry or SOF unit in 96 hours or less anywhere in the world. There is no reason our hooahs should be conducting combat ops especially during UOs without the support/protection they need.
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P.S every grunt I've talked to(only 3) says that the Stryker is a smooth ride, even cross country to an extent, and it definitely saves the legs
So does a Lincoln Navigator, but you wouldn't want to go to war in that would you?
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Originally posted by Delta_6
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P.S every grunt I've talked to(only 3) says that the Stryker is a smooth ride, even cross country to an extent, and it definitely saves the legs
So does a Lincoln Navigator, but you wouldn't want to go to war in that would you?
Exactly John![thumbUp]
Bottom line is that SBCTs will not be the highly deployable or lethal/protected forces Shinseki and his clown SMA kept swearing up and down they would be.[thdown]
All some Army units are getting is another mode of transport besides HMMWVs and trucks. For low-intensity I guess the 19-ton whale will be ok (and since we are getting the expensive whales anyway the Army might as well put them to use). Being an infantryman myself I would definitely appreciate a ride from time to time. Then again AD and NG infantrymen not serving in Stryker units will never see them.
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Originally posted by CavScout2
RR, with the merger of the 11series and the long term use of the SBCT a large majority of grunts will spend time in a Stryker.
Infantry that becomes too dependent on wheels at some point cease to become effective/hardcore infantry. Yeah, work smart not hard, but also don't lose sight of what your capabilities should be (or the enemy will eat our lunch).
Many may see the Stryker at some point but most in both the AD and NG components will still be humping their asses off in non Stryker equipped infantry brigades.
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Well they will be in our inventory and tax payers will have paid a pretty penny for them so soldiers in the "A" components should see them. There will be Stryker equipped NG units as well.
That bdes will be forward in the ROK and Europe is not too encouraging knowing the limitations of the vehicle. My fear is that commanders will be writing checks with that thing it won't be able to cash.
Soldiers will see them the same way most of our soldiers have seen and rode in other vehicles like HMMWVs and trucks. The LAV-III is simply and expensive 8x8 19-ton truck. Not the savior of our Army by any strech of the imagination, just another piece of equipment in the Army books that hopefully will be employed wisely in the field using sound MTETTC.
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