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Posted 5/2/2004 2:25 PM
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Trying to contact any member of the 4/505 PIR.

1994-1995



Harold E. Redding (1Sgt. Ret)
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Posted 5/2/2004 5:43 PM


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i dont remember a 4th batt. in the 505. that was 95-97.

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Posted 5/2/2004 7:38 PM


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JR was in the Desert Panthers. Im sure he has an email address in his profile.

pain is temporary, glory is forever and chicks dig scars, SO MOVE OUT AND DRAW FIRE!!!
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Posted 5/3/2004 4:14 AM


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4/505 was activated specifically for MFO duty in the Sinia. I believe it was made up of NG or Reserve troops


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Posted 5/3/2004 10:19 AM


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shows you how much i know

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Posted 5/3/2004 10:25 AM
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Memorandum Number: No. 013-M


January 20, 1995

MEMORANDUM FOR CORRESPONDENTS


More than 200 soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division's Task Force 4th Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment will deploy from Pope Air Force Base, North Carolina, to the Sinai Peninsula, Egypt, Jan 22, to take over observer duties as part of the Multinational Forces and Observers peacekeeping contingent. These soldiers make up the last of the 548-soldier task force to deploy for the six month duty.

The task force is the first light infantry battalion task force composed of active Army, National Guard, and Reserve soldiers.

For the last 13 years, the United States has provided infantry task forces to observe the security measures set forth in the Camp David Accords between Egypt and Israel. Until now, the Army has rotated active duty battalions from its light infantry divisions.

Task Force 4-505 Infantry was formed specifically to support the MFO mission and marks the first time volunteers from the reserve components of the National Guard and Army Reserve have been integrated in the same unit with active duty soldiers. This initiative is designed to free active component battalions for other training and contingency operations.

http://www.defense.gov/news/Jan1995/m012095_m013-95.html

 




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Posted 5/3/2004 12:56 PM
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Soldier's rumor in my opinion.  TF 4-505 went and did a fine job by everything I heard.  They paved the way for NG battalions to become involved in the MFO rotations w/o AD support.  The duty traditionally rotated between the 82nd, 101st, 25th,and 10th (between 1982 and 1995), but the NG has been doing it regularly for a while now.  I know for a fact battalion Task Forces from Arkansas, Oregon and Oklahoma did the MFO rotations in 2002 and the first half of 2003.


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Posted 5/4/2004 12:08 PM


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Yep, I was in the "Desert Panthers" - I like to think of it as the "world's longest SERE school," truthfully...

Here's why:

Take a bunch of NG and USAR guys and tell them they'll be able to go to jump school if they volunteer to serve one year on AD with this unit, which will be part of the 82nd.  Then when they show up at Bragg, tell them you're sorry, but someone must have given them some bad information - "Sorry, LEG - You can't go to jump school as part of this unit, because it's not on Airborne status."

Then take a bunch of non-volunteer NCOs from the 101st and 82nd who had already been to the Sinai before, take the 82nd guys OFF JUMP STATUS FOR A YEAR and put them in charge of the NTG and USAR legs.  Make sure they tell those LEGS how much they hate NAPs... 

Tell the NG and USAR guys they aren't fit enough to lead the unit (in deeds, not words, 'cause ya don't wanna be too DIRECT), by giving them Active Duty leadership, with minor NG and USAR (token?) leadership spread throughout the Battalion.

Then take a Battalion of guys & gals whose average age is in the upper 20s - A group who volunteered to take an entire year away from their civilian lives to take part in this experiment - And treat them like 18 year old privates in an Active Duty Battalion.

You got it - Not a real effective recipe for success.

In spite of all that, the Battalion did a VERY good job and proved the concept of allowing Reserve Component units to serve on peacekeeping missions.  Obviously they're doing all that and MORE, now.

Biggest lesson from the experiment - In my OPINION - Activate whole units, with their leadership intact.  Only RC leaders truly understand the sacrifices made by their troopers.


 
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