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POWs experienced a certain type of hell that lingers with them psychologically and physically for the remainder of their lives...however short they may be. My uncle was a WWII POW(Bataan Death March survivor) and his health was shaky for years due to that hellish brutality, his life was definetly cut short by it. Given the situation this POW deserves to be included on the wall. While I sympathize with the other cases they do not to me reach the same level as the case of POWs.
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My two cents, Jan Suggs does not own the wall nor do the Vietnam vets. it belongs to the country and if any person has a claim it should be the Mothers who gave their sons and daughters. Now if a Vet kills himself because of his time in country who are we to judge him. if there are 20,000 vets who committed suicide then they should add a whole section for them and add all the guys who died of war related service. Why not? Why deny a family a place to come honor their loved ones sacrifice. I don’t think the Dead care. The wall is for the living. My uncle had three tours in country and a combat tour in Korea. If you are trying to tell me that had no influence on his life and death you can screw yourself.
When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by The Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of Empire building by George Bush.
He answered by saying that, “Over the years, the United States has sent Many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom Beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in Return is enough to bury those that did not return.” It became very quiet in the room.
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Good points Big Staff, surely the families and the veterans who fought there deserve a place to remember their loved ones and comrads.
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It should be on a case-by-case basis. In this case he deserves to be there, . .IMO!
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Dan Rather presented this story on CBS News last night. Has a knot in my stomach just watching it. This man was tortured. . . his captors were animals. Seven and half years . . .
Think about it . . .if it someone started beating and torturing you right now, it wouldn't stop until August 2011
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Think about it . . .if it someone started beating and torturing you right now, it wouldn't stop until August 2011 Had to bring up marriage didn't ya
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Well, the way I see it....Sadly, Ed Brudno never "really" made it home....since they took his mind in Vietnamese prison camp...and thats were he left it... Those crowds had only seen the physical shell of a human step off that plane or bus when he returned home.....There was really very little left inside of him... His brains and thoughts were jumbled like a train-wreck and his feelings were all un-wired and rewired all wrong.... Even though his feet may be on American soil on his return...his soul was still tortured and forever in prison camp..death was his way to freeing himself, since this was a smart and free-sprited individual....He did not get the support he needed upon return...He is now in a better place...RIP.. This guy is a warrior for hanging in there that long..and basically is a casulty of the sacrafice and suffering he endored for his country...I vote to put his name up there... Chris
"... First, were we truly men of courage.... Second, were we truly men of judgment. Third, were we truly men of integrity.... And finally were we truly men of dedication."
President John F. Kennedy
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I think either way you look at it this is a close call to make. Both sides are presenting excellent arguments. We had a similiar situation in Iraq. One of our FIST'rs committed suicide. It was a tragedy as any loss of a soldier always is, but to me knowledge the BDE has not put him on our list of memorial names since it was not a death due to hostile action. Now his family is saying that the mental and physical stresses of being in Iraq contributed to his suicide. So maybe that should enititle him a place on the memorial. In the case of the Vietnam veteran it sounds to me that Vietnam killed him long before he ever got home. I agree that these should be made on a case to case basis, or give the POW's their own part of the wall altogether. Thanks for letting me put my thoughts in.
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