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Jarhead
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I wonder what would happen if the Corps put jump school in the mix for all Marines. MCRD, MCT, or Infantry school as part or the normal progression to earning the EGA. Could possibly be the only fully jump qualified branch. Crazy idea, but sounds good.
 "Your Marines having been under my command for nearly six months, I feel that I can give you a discriminating report as to their excellent standing with their brothers of the Army and their general good conduct."-General John J. Pershing, U.S. Army
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Crazy idea there, but it really doesn't fit in to the Corps Core mission...taking and holding beaches. I doubt that every man in an LVT needs jump wings. Also, the cost would be prohibitive...the need to set up additional facilities (Jump towers and areas close to the Recurit Depots cleared for jumps) and to fly that many missions....man that would burn a lot of kerosene
 
Fighters are our salvation, But BOMBERS alone provide us with the means of VICTORY! - Winston Churchill
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Jarhead
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quote:
Originally posted by warpusher
Crazy idea there, but it really doesn't fit in to the Corps Core mission...taking and holding beaches. I doubt that every man in an LVT needs jump wings. Also, the cost would be prohibitive...the need to set up additional facilities (Jump towers and areas close to the Recurit Depots cleared for jumps) and to fly that many missions....man that would burn a lot of kerosene
Warpusher,
From the National Security Act of 1947:
1. To seize of defend advanced naval bases and to conduct such land
operations as may be essential to the prosecution of a naval campaign.
2. To provide detachments and organizations for service in armed vessels of the Navy or for protection of naval property on naval stations and bases.
3. To develop, with the other Armed Forces, the tactics, techniques, and equipment employed by landing forces in amphibious operations.
4. To train and equip, as required, Marine forces for airborne operations.
5. To develop, with the other Armed Forces, doctrine, procedures, and equipment of interest to the Marine Corps for airborne operations which are not provided for by the Army.
6. To be able to expand from peacetime components to meet the needs of
war in accordance with mobilization plans.
The only glitch is in number 5. I don't recall the core mission of the Marine Corps to secure beachheads. Offensive amphibious deployment, yes. Limited to securing beachheads, No. But, if that were the case.....what is wrong with jumping in behind the beach and fighting back to secure the beachhead and a perimeter well around the beach for follow on forces to come ashore? Just an idea.
"Your Marines having been under my command for nearly six months, I feel that I can give you a discriminating report as to their excellent standing with their brothers of the Army and their general good conduct."-General John J. Pershing, U.S. Army
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I would like to see successful completion of BAC as a requirement for both USMC and Army Infantry. I believe no Infantryman should be limited in the manner he can be delivered to a fight, his leaders should be able to use any resource available to get him there.
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Jarhead
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quote:
Originally posted by sriley
I would like to see successful completion of BAC as a requirement for both USMC and Army Infantry. I believe no Infantryman should be limited in the manner he can be delivered to a fight, his leaders should be able to use any resource available to get him there.
That is the point. The Corps has historically been a self sufficient fighting force with organic air support that requires no marriage of different branches to provide support. Problem is they are essentially a stop-gap until larger holding forces can be brought in.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom
quote:
Originally posted by sriley
I would like to see successful completion of BAC as a requirement for both USMC and Army Infantry. I believe no Infantryman should be limited in the manner he can be delivered to a fight, his leaders should be able to use any resource available to get him there.
That is the point. The Corps has historically been a self sufficient fighting force with organic air support that requires no marriage of different branches to provide support. Problem is they are essentially a stop-gap until larger holding forces can be brought in.
Your original point was for ALL Marines to become airborne qualified. That is different from the National Security Act's langauage discussing Marine airborne forces "as required". As for your point of being a self sufficient fighting force that requires no marriage w/ different branches, I'm pretty sure the Navy owns most of those ships the MEUs are floating around on. [ ]
Now your point that airborne training further builds confidence and "attitude", I agree. I'd like to see as many servicemen as possible complete the training, regardless of branch or MOS.
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