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I know this has probably been on here before but it is still good.
Rangers Vs SF
The Chief of Staff of the Army asked his Sergeant Major, who was both Ranger and Special Forces qualified, which organization he would recommend to form a new anti-terrorist unit. The Sergeant Major responded to the General's question with this parable: If there were a hijacked Boeing 747 being held by terrorists along with its passengers and crew and an anti-terrorist unit formed either by the Rangers or the Special Forces was given a Rescue/Recovery Mission; what would you expect to happen? Ranger Option
Forces/Equipment Committed: If the Rangers went in, they would send a Ranger company of 120 men with standard army issue equipment.
Mission Preparation: The Ranger Company First Sergeant would conduct a Hair Cut and Boots Inspection.
Infiltration Technique: They would insist on double timing, in company formation, wearing their combat equipment, and singing Jody cadence all the way to the site of the hijacked aircraft.
Actions in the Objective Area: Once they arrived, the Ranger company would establish their ORP, put out security elements, conduct a leaders recon, reapply their face cammo, and conduct final preparations for Actions on the OBJ.
Results of Operation: The Rescue/Recovery Operation would be completed within one hour; all of the terrorists and most of the passengers would have been killed, the Rangers would have sustained light casualties and the 747 would be worthless to anyone except a scrap dealer.
Special Forces Option
Forces/Equipment Committed: If Special Forces went in, they would send only a 12 man team (all SF units are divisible by 12 for some arcane historical reason) however, due to the exotic nature of their equipment the SF Team would cost the same amount to deploy as the Ranger Company.
Mission Preparation: The SF Team Sergeant would request relaxed grooming standards for the team.
Infiltration Technique: The team would insist on separate travel orders with Max Per Diem, and each would get to the site of the hijacking by his own means. At least one third of the team would insist on jumping in.
Actions in the Objective Area: Once they arrived , the SF Team would cache their military uniforms, establish a Team Room, use their illegal Team Fund to stock the unauthorized Team Room Bar, check out the situation by talking to the locals, and have a Team Meeting to discuss the merits of the terrorists' cause.
Results of Operation: The Rescue/Recovery Operation would take two weeks to complete and by that time all of the terrorists would have been killed, (and would have left signed confessions); the passengers would be ruined psychologically for the remainder of their lives; and all of the women passengers would be pregnant. The 747 would be essentially unharmed, the team would have taken no casualties but would have used up, lost, or stolen all the "high speed" equipment issued to them.
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Seen it before, but still good. [LOL]
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The SEALS insist on a HALO/SCUBA insertion even though the aircraft is in the middle of the desert. They stop just shy of the target and redo their sexy face camo and do-rags. No two SEALS carry the same weapon and plenty of pictures are taken for the forthcoming books that they will write about their experiences.
The team then walks right down the middle of the tarmac where 4 of them are seriously wounded, the terrorists are killed but before they can give up any good intel. The hostages are freed...group photo is taken for the forthcoming books...The SEALS insist on leading the survivors out on foot instead of exfiling by helo...better for the book that will eventually be made into a movie.
Plane is blown up so it can't be recaptured by terrorists and because it will make book more exciting.After mission all SEAL team members involved write books about operation as well as 23 SEAL wannabes who watched story on History Channel.[ ][]
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As they stand right now Rangers and SF have different missions and capabilities. They are both SOF and part of the entire USASOC package. Comparing them is usually a waste of time and energy.
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REMF version:
A PAC team of E-2's bring 1,000 DA4187's to the terroists and tell them that if they are not filled out correctly the ransom can't be paid. While the terrorists are distracted by the clerks, a team of cooks substitute government rations for the airline food which has the unexpected result of having the terrorists gorge themselves on it since it was accidentally a step up. This results in the terrorists becoming lethargic due to constipation. Army maintenance personnel are then presented to pull maintenance on the aircraft for the continued safe flight...(bahahahaha!), the resulting mountain of 2404's are cleverly stacked as a defensive position for the real rescue team (who are not coming since their travel orders sent them to Korea instead). Prior to departing the area to obtain parts, the maintenance personnel fill the plane's fuel tanks with mogas. Finally the supply personnel board the aircraft with all of the terrorists demands packed into huge, cumbersome crates while simultaniously packing the hostages into other huge, cumbersome crates. No one remembers which crates carry what or who. The terrorists are so frustrated with the system that they voluntarily leave the aircraft and go home. Half of the hostage crates are mistakenly shipped to Korea to meet up with the waiting rescue element and the other half of the hostages starve to death in their crates, waiting to be unpacked. The aircraft never moves since the maintenance personnel can not complete the full PMCS prior to any of their ETS dates.
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quote:
Originally posted by JMPMASTR
The SEALS insist on a HALO/SCUBA insertion even though the aircraft is in the middle of the desert. They stop just shy of the target and redo their sexy face camo and do-rags. No two SEALS carry the same weapon and plenty of pictures are taken for the forthcoming books that they will write about their experiences.
The team then walks right down the middle of the tarmac where 4 of them are seriously wounded, the terrorists are killed but before they can give up any good intel. The hostages are freed...group photo is taken for the forthcoming books...The SEALS insist on leading the survivors out on foot instead of exfiling by helo...better for the book that will eventually be made into a movie.
Plane is blown up so it can't be recaptured by terrorists and because it will make book more exciting.After mission all SEAL team members involved write books about operation as well as 23 SEAL wannabes who watched story on History Channel.[][]
[82nd][E7][E6][uswingm]
That is the truth! If they are going to do it, it must be written about in a book. It is part of BUDS, SEALS learn about writing books. If you can't write a book then you can't pass BUDS. Also the mission must be worth a book or it isn't worth going on.
Nothing but respect for SEALS, but they do write a lot of books.
Ranger2
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quote:
Originally posted by Sh0t
I've seen and read just as many books about SF and more Delta Force, Green beret movies than movies about SEALs.
Where does all that come from? It's funny, but why do they think seals do that more than anybody else?
WHAT ABOUT THE RECON MARINES HUH HUH HUH?????
I do however like bald women with d-cups.
If you go to any bookstore and look under military history you will see what I am talking about. At times it looks like half the books are about SEALS. Even at Benning..
Ranger2
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