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Ex-Female Combat Pilot Can't Sue Critics
Sat Dec 13,
AP - 4:57 AM ET
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A federal appeals court says one of the Navy's first female combat pilots cannot sue groups that questioned her qualifications to fly F-14 aircraft.
Former Navy Lt. Carey D. Lohrenz sued the Center for Military Readiness, an advocacy group that opposed women serving in combat, and two media outlets seven years ago. She said they ruined her Navy career by alleging she was not capable of flying F-14s.
But a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled that Lohrenz lost some of her privacy protections when she became one of the first two female naval combat aviators.
"Lt. Lohrenz was not just any fighter pilot," Judge Judith W. Rogers wrote for the panel. "When she 'suited up,' she could reasonably have been expected to know that she was assuming a position of 'special prominence' in the controversy about women in combat roles."
The panel also determined that although the reports may well have been inaccurate, Lohrenz did not prove that reporters acted with malice, a necessary hurdle for public figures claiming defamation.
"It's disappointing, because it seems like such a technicality to me," Lohrenz told The Washington Post. "The truth has been rendered here irrelevant."
Lt. Kara Hultgreen, the other female combat pilot, died while attempting to land her F-14 on an aircraft carrier in October 1994. After that, Elaine Donnelly, the president of the Center for Military Readiness, alleged that the Navy knew Hultgreen and Lohrenz were substandard pilots.
Her reports, which were reported by the Copley Press and News World Communications Inc., claimed that the Pentagon (news - web sites) used a "politically driven" double standard to help them qualify for pilot duty.
Kent Masterson Brown, Donnelly's attorney, called the decision a victory for free speech. "There needs to be a lot of room for people to debate whether the military is making sure the people it puts into these jets are the most qualified," Brown said.
Before Donnelly's early 1995 reports, Lohrenz was rated an above-average pilot. However, she later received average marks and lost her flight status on F-14s.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20031213/ap_on_go_ot/navy_female_pilot
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Pilots often lifts weights as a countermeasure against the G forces. They don't do any aerobic activities at all just lift weights. When women became pilots much of the arguement was that women just weren't physically capable of the strength that was needed to fly the plane and handle the g's as they didn't have the muscule mass that was necessary. It that true, I don't have any experience to be able to answer that. That was the case with this women, they said that many of her flight tests were passed even though she never passed the requirements. Many male pilots said that the Navy was afraid to fail her so they passed her anyway. Only the people there know the truth. Probably as planes become more fly by wire the less strength is needed but the g's still have to be handled.
If I am wrong on any of this please correct as I am only going off memory.
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While the blood has less distance to be pumped the other aspect of G-forces,,,the gravity portion still applies. A 120 pound woman weighs several times that in a high positive-g manuver so the nessecity of the weight training. Most women flying probably don't pull alot of positive-Gs unless they are flying high performance combat aircraft so....But maybe mortarman can verify that theory as he is the flight guru!
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(never piloted high performance AC) Every part of you weighs more when pulling high Gs. If you're not strong, you won't be able to move your hand on the controls.
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quote:
Originally posted by GoldenGriffin
This would all seem to be a mute point since, as the topic suggests, she is an "EX-FEMALE combat pilot" 
Not really because the current women pilots still have to face the same issues both good and bad. If the average women can't handle the G's due to strength issues then she shouldn't be flying the plane. Really all the same issues are there. Are women able to fly these high performance planes or not due to strength issues? Or are they flying them because of political correctness? I don't know the answer we would have to ask someone who is flying them.
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quote:
Originally posted by GoldenGriffin
R2 - my post was an attempt at humor (not a very good one apparently). You see (Ex female) = male. I guess I better hang onto my day job!
Sorry. I am just a serious asshole and probably just didn't get it.
My bad.
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