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Posted 1/18/2005 4:49 PM


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January 24, 2005

Damage control
Bravery and ballast save a submarine and her crew

By William H. McMichael and Mark Faram
Times staff writers


Like driving blind into a brick wall. That’s what it must have seemed like to members of the submarine San Francisco when it slammed at high speed into what apparently is an underwater mountain southeast of Guam on Jan. 8.
The collision sent many crew members flying, injuring at least 60 and killing Machinist’s Mate 2nd Class Joseph Allen Ashley, who was thrown forward 20 feet into the propulsion lube oil bay, where he struck his head and never regained consciousness.

Investigators are looking into the cause of the deadly grounding while assessment teams determine what needs to be fixed.

But given the extent of the damage — three main ballast tanks and the sonar dome were partially flooded — that the sub was able to surface and make it to its Guam home port seems as much a testament to the crew as to the seaworthiness of the nuclear-powered attack submarine.

That conclusion is based largely on two e-mail messages sent by Rear Adm. Paul Sullivan, commander of the Pacific Fleet Submarine Force, and a crew member’s conversation with his parents. The Navy has not made crew members available to speak to the media about the incident. But the messages, the crew member’s recollections and observations from retired submariners give a strong sense of the crew’s exceptional performance.

“The fact they recovered enough to save their ship and get it to the surface is testimony to their training and experience,” said John C. Markowicz, a retired submariner and Reserve captain who once operated in the same area of the Pacific where the San Francisco grounded. “Those folks did one hell of a job.”

The San Francisco and its 137 crew members were making a submerged transit to Brisbane, Australia, for a port visit. Just after midnight Jan. 8 local time, the 362-foot sub was moving to the east at top speed — in excess of 30 knots, or nearly 35 miles per hour — through what Sullivan described as a submerged moving haven, or an underwater passage thought to be free of obstacles.

Suddenly, and without any apparent warning, the sub crashed into “something topographical,” according to Lt. Cmdr. Jeff Davis, spokesman for the Pacific Fleet Submarine Force. The violent force of the impact sent the crew flying forward.

One sailor onboard gave his parents a firsthand account of what it was like.

“Dad, get in your boat and run at full throttle and hit something straight on — it was like hitting a wall,” Electrician’s Mate 2nd Class Bryan Barnes told his father, Dean Barnes of Rosewood, N.C., who related the conversation to Navy Times. His son also told Barnes that it was “like G forces [hitting] you from out of nowhere, when I wasn’t expecting it.”

Barnes had just come off watch and was heading for chow when the collision occurred. He told his parents he was thrown to the deck and suffered a hyperextended elbow and severe bruises on his hips and back. Barnes was one of about 60 crew members injured; 22 could not stand watch and required hospital treatment after returning to Guam. Injuries reportedly ranged from head and back injuries to broken bones, Sullivan wrote.

Despite his injuries, Barnes, like most in the crew probably fueled by adrenaline, was one of the first to reach Ashley. Sullivan said Ashley, who was in the aft main seawater bay when he was thrown forward, suffered a “severe” blow to the head, which Barnes verified, telling his parents it was a “sight you really would not want to see.” He said he stayed with Ashley until help arrived.

But even as crew members worked through their own injuries to help those more seriously injured, they also struggled to keep the sub from sinking. The Navy has not released the depth at which the mishap occurred, although NBC News quoted unnamed officials as saying the sub was 525 feet beneath the surface.

Little is known about the topography of the ocean floor, another retired submariner said. “You know the macroscopic features,” said James H. Patton, a retired captain and former attack sub commanding officer, “where the big ranges and ridges are.

“You like to think with these large great abysmal plains that they are all flat and for the most part that is true, but not always.”

Markowicz said soundings on deep-water charts often are questionable, although this improves greatly in waters near ports. Still, he said, “You have to trust the accuracy of your charts. But if this was an uncharted sea mount in the middle of a sea plain, there was probably nothing you could do.”

While the nuclear reactor plant, propulsion train and electrical distribution systems were unaffected, Sullivan wrote, the nose of the sub sustained significant damage. Main ballast tanks 1A, 1B and 2B and the sonar sphere were partially flooded and buoyancy was a major concern.

The details of which crew members did what in the aftermath of the collision and precisely what happened next remain unknown. NBC reported that the sub surfaced by way of an “emergency blow,” which would have used pressure to empty ballast tanks of seawater.

According to Barnes, one piece of equipment saved the sub: the LP, or low-pressure blower, which was used to push air into the damaged forward main ballast tanks. Once on the surface, the blower had to be run constantly to keep the bow from flooding, Barnes told his parents.

The LP blower, however, isn’t designed to run continuously. “Everyone onboard was praying it would keep running,” Barnes told his father. According to Sullivan, Naval Sea Systems Command devised an emergency procedure to allow use of the diesel generator as a blower for the forward ballast tanks in the event the LP blower failed.

At the same time, the sub’s independent duty corpsman, whose name could not be obtained by press time, worked to stabilize Ashley and treat the other injured sailors. The following morning, a surgeon from Naval Hospital Guam, an undersea medical officer and another independent duty corpsman arrived on the sub via helicopter to help out and to prepare Ashley for transport back to Guam.

They apparently were thwarted by a combination of rough seas, the sub riding low in the water and the forward damage, making a safe small boat or helicopter transfer impossible. Navy officials confirmed that an attempted medevac through the aft escape truck failed because of seas washing over the hull, and that two attempts to bring Ashley up through the bridge hatch failed.

Ashley died about two hours later, Navy officials confirmed.

Once surfaced, the sub sailed home at 8 knots with “a slight port list, increased draft and slight down angle,” Sullivan wrote. The sub, with visible damage topside to the sonar dome, held steady at a zero-degree trim angle with a port 2-degree list, and made it home just after 4:30 p.m. local time Jan. 10. At its mooring, the sub’s tail is higher in the water than normal, with the aft draft at 27 feet, 10 inches — normally, it’s at 32 feet.

“We saved it by teamwork and the grace of God,” Barnes told his father.

Sullivan said he spoke with Ashley’s father before and after his son’s death and wrote that the father “expressed great gratitude for the extraordinary efforts made by the Navy to save his son’s life. He told me his son loved the Navy, having just re-enlisted earlier this year, and wanted to make it a career. That when he called home, he always talked about the many friendships and the wonderful camaraderie the crew of [the submarine] exhibited. Prior to sailing, he was really excited about the pending ship visit to Australia.”

Damage assessment and an investigation into the crash continue. Meanwhile, professional counselors, medical personnel and Navy chaplains have been meeting with crew members to provide grief counseling and assistance, Sullivan said. As of press time, Cmdr. Kevin Mooney remained in command of the sub.

Defense News staff writer Christopher P. Cavas contributed to this report.

William H. McMichael is the Hampton Roads bureau chief for Navy Times. Reach him at (757) 223-0096 or by e-mail at bmcmichael@navytimes.com.

 



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January 24, 2005

Submariner remembered as being ‘happy all the time’

By Theresa Merto
Gannett News Service


U.S. NAVAL BASE GUAM — Sailors in the auxiliary division of the attack submarine San Francisco’s engineering department were present during a last man roll call Jan. 13 — except Machinist’s Mate 2nd Class Joseph Allen Ashley.
The “brotherhood,” as many submariners call it, gathered at a memorial service for Ashley, who died from injuries suffered when the nuclear-powered submarine ran aground Jan. 8 about 350 nautical miles south of Guam.

Ashley, 24, of Akron, Ohio, was known as a great shipmate who loved submarines, especially the San Francisco, where he was stationed for nearly three years.

A Navy official said the submarine struck an underwater ‘topographical feature.’ An investigation into the accident continues.

“(Ashley) dedicated himself to San Francisco, our Navy and our great country. By so doing, he earned the love, honor, trust and respect of his shipmates,” Cmdr. Kevin Mooney, commanding officer of the San Francisco, said in a release. “Although our hearts ache and we miss him, we thank God for the time together. We also thank Petty Officer Ashley’s family for sharing their son and brother with us.”

Mooney further highlighted Ashley’s positive impact on the crew.

“He was my shipmate, my friend and a great submariner. ... He loved his job and life in the Navy so much,” Mooney said. “Not only was Petty Officer Ashley happy all the time, he made it his personal business to make sure all his shipmates were happy, including me.”

Lt. j.g. Josh Chisholm, who is a chemistry/radiological assistant, said Ashley was a great sailor who “loved submarines and being on the San Francisco, through and through.”

“He always brought a smile to everybody’s face when he was around,” Chisholm said, adding that Ashley always had a positive, upbeat attitude.

“For us, he was somebody we knew we could trust,” said Chisholm, who was interviewed after the memorial service. “We knew he would do the right thing in terms of when he was standing watch.”

Four sailors from San Francisco, along with sailors from Submarine Squadron 15, will escort Ashley’s body off the island. He will be buried in West Virginia, said Master Chief Bill Cramer, who is the San Francisco’s chief of the boat.

“He was one of those guys who was ready to make the Navy and the submarine force a lifelong career because of the tightness. It is like a brotherhood as we refer to it,” Cramer said. “We were very close to him — everybody on board.”

Ashley was in charge of the submarine’s emergency diesel and took great pride in that, Cramer said.

“In our most recent engineering exam, he got the highest grade that someone would get,” Cramer said. “He took pride in everything he did ... and was always willing to learn more.”

Cramer said the crew sought counseling after returning to Guam earlier this week, adding that the experience has been traumatic. He said 23 sailors were taken to the hospital Jan. 10, and all but three were released that night. By Jan. 12, the remaining sailors were released from the hospital.

“Most of my sailors, the very next day, were mustering with me on the pier — which wasn’t required — but they were ready to get back to work,” Cramer said. “A lot of the guys that were getting out of the Navy have said, ‘The San Francisco brought me home from that, I’m gonna stick around until [it’s] seaworthy again.’.”

Ashley enlisted in the Navy in 2001 and reported to San Francisco as a machinist’s mate in February 2002, according to a Navy release. While serving aboard the Los Angeles-class fast-attack submarine, he was selected Junior Sailor of the Quarter for the third quarter of 2004, the release said.

Chisholm said that since the grounding, the sailors have relied on each other and their families for support and do not second-guess getting back on the submarine despite the accident.

“We’ve been through such a difficult situation with the grounding,” Chisholm said. “But I think most of us, if it went back to sea today, would go right back and operate that ship.”

 



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Posted 1/19/2005 3:53 AM


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I work with several former squids (believe it or not, that's what surface Navy personnel refer to submariners as... quite a shock to me as I always used it as a generic term for anyone in silly bell-bottoms) and they all made it quite clear that these sorts of incidents are routine occurances. Only time anyone finds out about them is when casualtys occur. Kind of disturbing to think it's normal for our subs to be bouncing around the ocean floor like pinballs... makes you wonder what other less trained navies have going on...

 

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Disturbing thought... one of my former squid co-workers told me during lunch that it was a damned good thing the boat involved was an older Los Angelas type 1 class as later models of that line and the new Seawolf have vertical launch tubes located by the nose... a similar impact on one of those boats would preceed another Kursk style incident.

 



 

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Posted 1/19/2005 12:22 PM


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One thing that has come to mind is that Attack boats are still tracking the odd Russian boomer that goes to sea. So we may read about this incident in Blind Mans Bluff II....

 

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Posted 1/19/2005 2:55 PM


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The Seawolf class will never have a collision at sea, my brother called them the "Pierwolf". The tenders are at sea more than the Seawolf!!


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